FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter X Instagram Tiktok YouTube Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe
Log In
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Restoration
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
Log In

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

Help with wiring

hillbilly | Posted in General Discussion on December 28, 2003 11:45am

Hello everyone! I need some wiring advice. I just had my Kitchen counter replaced and I’m finishing up the installation of my garbage disposal. I have the wire from the panel a wire from the switch and a wire from the disp. also have a junction box installed how do I hook it up.

Reply

Replies

  1. User avater
    IMERC | Dec 29, 2003 01:12am | #1

    Make certain your power is OFF before you start.

    Black wire (hot) from the panel to the black wire on the switch. Make this connection in the "J" box.

    The white wire from the switch to the "J" box.

    At this time you WILL mark the white wire to denote that it is now a hot wire and not a nutral. Pemenant marker or colored tape. Use red or black. Red would be my 1st choice.

    Connect this marked white wire to the brass colored input / line screw / terminal on your GFI receptical.

    Connect your white wire (nutral) from the panel to the silver colored input / line screw / terminal on your GFI recept.

    Make sure all your bonds (grounds) are made up (connected) to one another and to your GFI recpt and switch.

    Mount your recpt put on the cover and plug in your GD.

     

    Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

  2. househelper | Dec 29, 2003 04:33am | #2

    It would be helpful to know what color the wires are. You should have a black and white coming from the disposal and a white and black or red coming from the panel/switch.

  3. CPopejoy | Dec 29, 2003 04:52am | #3

    Your best bet would be to get a basic wiring book like the one by Black & Decker and read up.  These books have great drawings and photos.

    With electrical, there are a lot of details that you must get right, like connecting the grounding wires together and to the outlet and the switch, and to the electrical boxes (if these are steel).  If you don't, you put yourself/your family at risk.  Especially with a circuit where water and power meet.

    Also for your own safety you need to know a bunch of stuff like how to check that the breaker you turned off is actually the one that controls the circuit you're working on.  Breakers are mislabelled opccassionally, and even if you have the right one, you may (by mistake) not completely turn it off.  So it's essential to check for voltage before you start handling the wires.

    I make these points only because I infer from your post that you're a real beginner with electrical wiring.  While I think a bulletin board is a great place to clarify or debate things electrical, I think it's a poor place to learn the basics.

    Also I read into your post that you didn't install the wires or switch.  I suggest that you open up those boxes and check the installation, to make sure it's right.  And the knowledge you get from a good basic wiring book will allow you to judge that.

    Good luck--

    Cliff

    p.s. I've never seen a garbage disposal connected to a GFI outlet.  I think it's unnecessary and an invitation to trouble (i.e., nuisance tripping as the motor inevitably starts to leak very small amounts of current, which will flow to ground harmlessly on the grounding conductor--if it's properly connected). CP



    Edited 12/28/2003 8:55:59 PM ET by CAP



    Edited 12/28/2003 8:56:51 PM ET by CAP

    1. User avater
      CapnMac | Dec 29, 2003 11:37am | #5

      I've never seen a garbage disposal connected to a GFI outlet. 

      Your point is very apt in terms of practical use of a gfci.  However the code wants any outlet withing 6' of the sink to be gfci protected.  So that includes the one 12" underneath that winds up with a DW & GD plugged into it.  Or, the appliance guys only hard wire, so then, there's a couple of pieces of NM snaked to the appliances, and the gfci outlet left in the box, too ("Blank plate?  Whazzat?").Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

      1. User avater
        BillHartmann | Dec 29, 2003 03:58pm | #6

        "However the code wants any outlet withing 6' of the sink to be gfci protected."

        That is not true, by the NEC. Now it used to be for COUNTER TOP receptacles within 6' of the sink. Now it is ALL receptacles that serve the COUTERTOP in the kitchen. An outlet under the sink does not usefull for countertop appliances.

        Also all receptacles in the bathroom need GFCI. But for other "wet bar" areas the 6' rule is still in effect.

        " Or, the appliance guys only hard wire, so then, there's a couple of pieces of NM snaked to the appliances, and the gfci outlet left in the box, too ("Blank plate? Whazzat?")."

        That is not by code either. NM is not acceptable for this application. You need to to use flexible conduit or armored cable. And you need to use approved connectors to transistion from the wall box to the conduit. And you need to have a disconnect means.

        And the "appliance guy" really has nothing to do with it. It depends on whether they follow the NEC in this respect or have other requiements.

        1. User avater
          CapnMac | Dec 30, 2003 01:30am | #7

          That is not true, by the NEC.

          Quite true.  That is exactly what NEC says.  In Harris County, the inspectors only know "6 foot of sink."  So, that's what they enforce.  Electrically, as was pointed out earlier, it makes no sense.  But, for the super trying to get 8 houses finished early & under budget, he'll just make the inspector happy.

          By "appliance guys," in this application, I am thinking of the crews used by a couple of hational builders who install all of the appliances for the builder's homes.  Code compliance does not seem to be a high priority for their work.  Which was my point (I probably did not make well enough known).  Just sahring the exerience of visiting friends and they ask you to look at something "Does that look right to you?"  And there's the disposal hooked up to romex, and the DW the same, both cables run though a knock out on a sufaced mounted box in the sinkbase cabinet.

          And, in case I have not set the measure accurately, the "national" builders in question "slow" to only 5 slabs a week for the holiday season; they will ramp up to 10 per week around March, then hit stride at 20 per week by June.  Per subdivision.  Not bad people to vend to, almost never problems with billing.  Just sometimes too scary to see in the field.  Not work that would ever be considered "fine" in any sense of the word, either.  Just another 1/8 million McMansion Lite with a $250 or $300K price tag.

          Oops, sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

  4. RalphWicklund | Dec 29, 2003 06:18am | #4

    Sorry.

    All we know about your situation is that you have three wires from three sources apparently hanging loose and an empty junction box stuck somewhere, perhaps under the sink. You don't say if your garbage disposal is to be hard-wired or plug-in.

    If I were to be doing the installation.....

    The wire from the panel would be pulled to the switch box.

    Another wire would be pulled from the switch box to the junction box under the sink.

    The neutral (white) wires in the switch box would be wire nutted together.

    The hot(black) wire from the panel would be connected to one terminal of the switch.

    The other black wire in the switch box would be connected to the second terminal of the switch.

    The bare (ground) wires would be wire nutted together with a green nut with the small hole in the narrow end. From this hole would extend a leg of one of the bare wires that you intentionally left about 8 inches longer than the other when you twisted them together and then applied the nut. This is then connected to the ground screw on the frame of the switch and if the switch box was metal, then the gound wire would also be attached to the box with a screw (usually green) before the switch.

    This completes the connections in the switch box. Close it up.

    The junction box under the sink contains the end of the wire coming from the switch box.

    You could use a standard duplex outlet (if you have a plug-in style disposal), but a single element outlet would be my choice since no other fixture should be plugged in under there.

    White wire to the silver screw, black wire to the gold screw and bare wire to the green or ground screw. In the event that the screws are the same color (it happens) then the black wire to the side of the outlet that has the smaller slot for the plug-in. Another way to note the difference is that the white wire and the ground wire attach to (different) screws on the same side of the fixture. Don't forget to attach the ground wire to the box if it is metal.

    Install the outlet cover, plug it in. Done.

    Hard wire??

    Disposal would (should) have a shielded conductor, either armored cable or watertight flexible PVC, attached. Wire from the disposal goes through that and extends about 6 inches. Install the proper strain relief or PVC connector to the junction box and attach the cable to that. Attach like colored wires with wire nuts in the junction box and if the box is metal then attach the ground to that also. Put the cover on the box. Done.

    Junction box installed flush in the back wall of the cabinet?

    Attach the cable to the box cover. Make wire connections. Attach cover to j-box. Done.

    Still not clear? Could you use some diagrams? Then I think you need an electrician.

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander

We tried out a range of rotary and random-orbit sanders to compare their dust collection, quality of finish, and user fatigue after hours of sanding.

Featured Video

Micro-Adjust Deck-Baluster Spacing for an Eye-Deceiving Layout

No math, no measuring—just a simple jig made from an elastic band is all you need to lay out a good-looking deck railing.

Related Stories

  • The Unabashed Maximalist
  • A 1980s Condo Goes Retro Vintage
  • Sharp-Blade Solution
  • Podcast Episode 684: Masonry Heaters, Whole-House Ventilation, and Porch Flooring

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 331 - June 2025
    • A More Resilient Roof
    • Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander
    • Ducted vs. Ductless Heat Pumps
  • Issue 330 - April/May 2025
    • Deck Details for Durability
    • FAQs on HPWHs
    • 10 Tips for a Long-Lasting Paint Job
  • Issue 329 - Feb/Mar 2025
    • Smart Foundation for a Small Addition
    • A Kominka Comes West
    • Making Small Kitchens Work
  • Issue 328 - Dec/Jan 2024
    • How a Pro Replaces Columns
    • Passive House 3.0
    • Tool Test: Compact Line Lasers
  • Issue 327 - November 2024
    • Repairing Damaged Walls and Ceilings
    • Plumbing Protection
    • Talking Shop

Fine Home Building

Newsletter Sign-up

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox.

  • Green Building Advisor

    Building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox.

  • Old House Journal

    Repair, renovation, and restoration tips, plus special offers, in your inbox.

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters

Follow

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell or share my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2025 Active Interest Media. All rights reserved.

Fine Homebuilding receives a commission for items purchased through links on this site, including Amazon Associates and other affiliate advertising programs.

X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Online Learning

  • Courses
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • FHB House
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • X
  • YouTube
  • instagram
  • facebook
  • pinterest
  • Tiktok

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in