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how to remove picture window storm windo

pooremike | Posted in Construction Techniques on January 28, 2007 05:56am

I have a 5’x6′ storm window panel (4-15″x6′ horizontal glass panels) over a similar appearing picture window. I would like to remove the storm window to clean the inner middle panes of both windows. Would the molding hiding the joint between the window panel and the window frame typically be holding this in place? Would you expect to find the outer/storm window panel (all materials are wood) nailed in addition to being held by the molding? If the panel is nailed in with finish nails, how do you either remove the nails or pull the panel out over them? Thanks for the advice.

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  1. DougU | Jan 28, 2007 06:03am | #1

    Mike

    I hope I'm reading this right, which is often times not the case....but if you have a wooden storm window then it should come off from the outside.

    Is there some sort of brackets at the top that appears to be holding the window in place?

    Is it possible that the storm has been painted in, meaning that several coats of paint is whats holding the window from comming out.

    Is it possible to take a picture of it and post it?

    Doug

  2. pooremike | Jan 28, 2007 06:24am | #2

    The storm window is mounted from the outside. There is a small rectangular molding at the top and 1" quarter round on the sides. No molding at the bottom. (I tried unsuccessfully to attach a .jpg. I click attach files on the reply page, but nothing happens. I was expecting a browse window to navigate to the picture file.)

    1. Piffin | Jan 29, 2007 03:30am | #3

      That problem normally comes when you have a po-up blocker activated. Turning it off should help. 

       

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    2. DougU | Jan 29, 2007 04:00am | #4

      What Piffin said!

      I have to shut my pop up blocker off in order to attach a pic, try that and see what happens.

      I'm wondering if someone didnt nail trim over the storm, or its actually attached to the storm sash.

      Doug

      1. pooremike | Jan 29, 2007 05:01am | #5

        I think I've got the picture attached now. Thanks for the help. Maybe this will let you see what I'm trying to describe. Mike

        1. DougU | Jan 29, 2007 05:29am | #6

          Mike

          OK, you did great on the posting now you gotta learn to resize!

          Ya, ya, were asking a lot from you but people on dial up can not load that big of a file.

          I have high speed so no big dea. :)

          I have resized it so that guys like piffin can view it without spending there retirement years waiting for it to load.

          Doug

          Edited 1/28/2007 9:36 pm ET by DougU

        2. DougU | Jan 29, 2007 05:35am | #7

          Mike

          As to what I see is the problem.

          I"m assuming the storm is behind the trim that you have pictured and my answer is reflecting that. If you could post a pic from a little farther back it would also help.

          If the storm window is behind those pieces of trim then they are going to have to be removed. Looks like they have been painted in place. Score around them with a utility knife and try to force a flat bar in behind them and pry them off.

          You should then be able to see something that will allow you to take that storm off.

          If the trim is the only thing holding the storm in place I'd suggest a different method for re-afixing it,  Something that will be easier to remove for cleaning and maintance reasons.

          Doug

           

          1. pooremike | Jan 29, 2007 06:00am | #8

            Thank you, Doug. The storm is behind the trim. I'll pull the trim off when our 2 days of winter are over. Hopefully, the storm window will lift out with the trim removed. If that's not the case, I'll re-post later. Thanks for the tip about scoring the paint. Mike.

          2. Piffin | Jan 29, 2007 06:13am | #9

            If you only get two days of winter, leave the thing off!Heck, just throw a roch through it. People will oooo and aahhhh aboutr how celan you got your window. 

             

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          3. pooremike | Jan 30, 2007 06:00am | #10

            How about a BB gun? Our neighbors kids tried that a few years ago.

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            Dinosaur | Jan 30, 2007 07:00am | #11

            Hopefully, the storm window will lift out with the trim removed.

            LOL. Figure you'll need to score or cut the paint all around it just to get the trim off (likely you'll wind up replacing the trim; no big deal) and once you get that off, you'll likely have to repeat the process for the sash itself. A small flat-bar/paint-scraper combo with a 90º prying end is the tool of choice for this.

            You might also consider screwing a screw-eye or small lag screw into the face of the top stile to give yourself something to pull on once the trim is off.

            Have a buddy or your DW there with you when you finally get the thing free. They're heavier than they look. Be careful if you have to work off ladders. Lowering the sash to the ground with a rope and pulley isn't a bad idea, either.Dinosaur

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