I need a tool tote that doesn’t suck
New Year’s resolution #34 is to revamp the way I haul hand tools around. Last summer I bought one of these finally decided I don’t like it:
http://www.clccustomleathercraft.com/products/detail002.asp?partNo=1532
In the photo it looks like you can store a lot of tools standing up in narrow, deep pockets… but it ain’t so. The only pockets that work for me are on the outside, where they have the various pliers, screwdrivers, and utility knife. There are a bunch of little loops on the inside of the outer sections (where it shows the chalk bottle) but things end up falling over. The main pouch is too big and too deep and stuff just ends up buried in there. There are some flat pockets in the main pouch but they are too tight for most things.
What I really need is a tote that will let me store a bunch of small hand tools in pouches with their butt ends sticking out…. pliers, dikes, channellocks, visegrips, utility knives, crescent wrench, screwdrivers, awl, nailsets and punches, pencils, torpedo level, etc.
Anyone carrying their tools like this, and if so what are you using?
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David,
I know what you are saying. I'm looking for the solution too. I'm thinking I need to build my own but not enough time. I'll be looking for sugestions too!
Happy and organized 2007!
Bob
I am getting to sound like a broken record, since I always put in a plug for the Veto.
http://tinyurl.com/y97kon
I have made my own, and bought carriers similar to the one you showed, and the Veto is the best I have found.
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"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
That URL didn't seem to go anywheres.....
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This link goes straight to the home site for Veto:http://www.vetopropac.com/veto-pro-pac-model-xl.phpThe link that didn't work was for the Amazon listing, which is $20 cheaper. I will try it again:http://tinyurl.com/ydby3n********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
I found this...
http://www.vetopropac.com/veto-canvas-tool-bags.php
I trust it is the same...
Ummmmmmmmmmm...
do these tool totes come with a hand truck???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Rez got after me to weigh mine a few months ago. Fully loaded with hand tools, it came to 35 lbs. -- not light, but manageable.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
nice bags...
with all the tools in them as shown in the pics I figured more than a mere 35 pounds..
got the links to open...
thanks...
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WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Heres a tool organiser
http://www.hhtrailer.com/viewtrailer.asp?id=103
Real trucks dont have sparkplugs
use to use a horse trailer with the apartment in the front...
40' and it still wasn't big enough..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Ya got me wondering....so I weighed my Veto. 33 lbs. I love the thing, and it really is managable with the shoulder strap. I sorta swing it back behind me to get through doorways. I haven't seen anything I like better so Veto gets my vote too.PJ
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
The only "complaint" I have is that I had to train my head to always put tools in the same place; otherwise I spent too much effort looking through all those pockets. Which bag do you have?********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
The middle sized one...XL?. If I could change one thing, I'd make the pockets or maybe the trim a different color on one side so I didn't have to look at both to get it right. Like hammer on blue side, screwdriver on brown....make sense?PJ
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
That's the bag I have. Like you, I have one set of tools on one side, and a different set on the other side. I wrapped a little piece of velcro around one of the rings on one side, so I could tell at a glance which was which. But on the job site, I always have both sides open anyway, so it doesn't matter. However, I am one of those feeble minded types that If I don't put a tool back where it belongs, I can never find it. Hence my effort to be disciplined enough to always use the same pocket for each tool. the big stuff is not a problem, but the smaller stuff (like a window scraper) can get lost if it doesn't go in the same pocket.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
However, I am one of those feeble minded types that If I don't put a tool back where it belongs, I can never find it
Feeble, huh? We must both be feeble :) There's way to many pockets to randomly drop stuff in, besides we can tell at a glance if one of the "kids" got left on top of a cabinet or something. S
So it must be "highly organized" not feeble....er....ahhh....anal.PJ
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
I always say " a disorganized mind needs an organized work space" and vice versa********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
thanks for saying all that...
it isn't so lonely out here anymore... I gots company...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
so much for that...
ordered the set...
XL-1 and the LC-1 set...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Edited 1/2/2007 2:23 am by IMERC
That was quick ...... and decisive. Everyone I have encountered around here who has one seems to like it a lot. Assuming you bought them from Amazon, if you don't like one or the other, they make it easy to return it. After getting the XL, I had them send the larger bag too -- the XXL. After a few days, I decided it really wouldn't work for me, and they took it back with no problem. I think they even paid the return freight.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
that's me on descision making... you took out a lot of the guess work.. thanks.. would hate to see them join my Bammer and detail sander...
A GP bag and a dedicated service tote... I believe it will all work well...
with them coming in at 35ish pounds... no sweat...
that's less than half the weight of the "portable" table saw, SCMS and a few of those other "portable" tools I have...
BTW... somebody sent me "another " detail sander the other day... I'm sure it was a "pass me on" thing...
no fear... I know just who to send it to...
be get even time
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
<<< would hate to see them join my Bammer and detail sander...>>>me too...... but I don't think they will. You'll know within a day or two if they will suit your fancy for schlepping tools around. I managed to miss the Bammer, but I got pulled in on one of those PC detail sanders <G>********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
is that PC siting next to the Prazi???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
<<is that PC siting next to the Prazi???>><<<<<<<<<<<GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG>>>>>>>>>>>>You mean that Prazi putty chaser, or whatever it's called?well, the answer is yup.............. they sit on the same shelf in my dead storage room.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
yup and how did I know that???
oh the money spent....
My Irwin bag is going to be the hold all for just those kind of items along with that square electrician's tote..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Veto, Veto, Vetogot one for Christmas. great bag
Barry E-Remodeler
I was idly thinking about that just the other day. In the 30 or so years that I have been buying tools intensively, I have managed to avoid accumulating but a handful of stuff that turned out to be useless lemons.Even at $120, I reasoned that Veto would be a bargain -- if it saved me from buying a string of tool carriers that I would end up being dissatisfied with. Kind of like buying 3 cheap Craftsman drills, when one Bosch would outlast them all, and still keep tickin.' <G>********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
we think alike...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Even at $120, I reasoned that Veto would be a bargain -- if it saved me from buying a string of tool carriers that I would end up being dissatisfied with<<<<
exactly
"Being a cowboy aint all ridin and shootin" - Tim Mooney
You getting back in the game?
Binky Boodle is the man!
http://www.hay98.com/
nope..
got rid of a lotta stuff and I gots a lot more that I just "need"....
besides I get grumpier when my fishing time is cut into...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
fly fishing i hope.....
to addiction levels...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
steelhead in ny, lake ont.tribs. in jan ...I HOPE.....
Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho and Utah for anything with scales if I can ever get off this mountain...
be way much snow
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
lucky you... all i have here is ocean and some overcrowded streams..
stripers and brookie,rainbows and browns enough to keep me content sort of.. i am from the big state of ri
I was born in RI...
I know yur fishing...
I spend time at times on the Gulf outta FL and the Keys....
couple of months ago I was up at the a Aleutians..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
lucky sheet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! got to tie sum egg sucking leeches fo the steelhead in ny maybe in jan
35# Veto? Sounds half empty, or packed full of helium balloons. Just weighed mine- 43 pounds for the XL! No wonder one arm is longer than the other.
Seriously, to the OP-buy a Veto. I have bought just about every other bag, (Irwins cave in or tilt over) box, bucket organizer, etc. Probably spent more on all those than if I bought the Veto to begin with. Sure, it's over $100, but it really protects and organizes the investment of tolls it holds. (I wonder what my 40# of tools are worth?)
Every time I use the Veto, I love it and keep thanking myself for finally getting it. I consider it one of my best purchases.
I use one of those clip on D-rings to identify the "A" side of the bag. Snap it to one of the metal loops.
Come on everybody, let's weigh our Veto!Pete Duffy, Handyman
weighed mine 65# no wonder my cairo is driving a new lexus.. think i will just leave it in the truck and walk out there when i need something., maybe a smaller bag to carry tools into the job ????
Holy snot-45 lb for the XXLActually that's not too bad considering.
Maybe someday I'll know a little something.
You're right. It's great.
"Being a cowboy aint all ridin and shootin" - Tim Mooney
$112! Gasp!!
Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm but the harm does not interest them. --T.S. Eliot
<<<<<< $112! Gasp!! >>>>>>>>>Yeah, I know. I pestered everybody around here for months before I could do it.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
Ive had the Veto XL bag for about a year now and its a great tool bag, but I dont consider it my favorite. To me it feels like a small suitcase filled with bricks. I use it more for what I would call a "home base" for my best hand and finishing tools. On one side I keep the cutting tools chisels, low angle block plane, small saws, sharpening stones and oil, etc. The other side has the fastenening tools pliers, screwdrivers, oddball stuff. BTW someone said both sides look the same, mine has a red label on one side and the other side is plain. I also keep a good supply of pencils and knife blades in there too. The tool bag I grab most of the time is one called the riggers bag or tote, that I got from Duluth Trading. Its the perfect size for the basic hand tools I use 95% of the time. There are no zippers to deal with, just an open tote with all the tool handles sticking up easy to grab and see. There is a open compartment where I keep the flatbars, catspaw and bulkier stuff. It was under $30, so not too exspensive.. I like the Veto bag and plan on keeping it for a long time, its just not the one I carry around all day.
Sounds like you've found a good system for the the way you work --- and that's the important thing. About the time I started doing this work many years ago, I came across a how-to article from the early 1950's for a job site tool chest that was promoted by what was then called the American Plywood Association. They claimed they had done a study and found that the average carpenter at the time spent 40% of their time looking for their tools.That seemed like an outrageous claim, and maybe it was at least in part because tool belts weren't really in vogue back then. But I did start to notice that if you weren't organized, you did indeed spend too much time looking for stuff.So I think it pays to spend some time and effort thinking about getting organized, and then come up with a system that works for you. I still see too many guys wandering around job sites looking for some tool they laid down, or groping around a drywall bucket looking for what they need.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
I have seen people with a toolbox or bag that is just a pile of tools(my Uncle for one example) that dig through the pile everytime they need something, so 40% doesnt surprise me. It doesnt make sense to me.
BTW someone said both sides look the same, mine has a red label on one side and the other side is plain
That was me....I should clarify. Mine has the red label on one flap too and I do eyeball that if it's closed. More often than not, I have both sides rolled down on site so label isn't visible. In a perfect world, I'd have something visibly different on on the inside so I didn't glance at the wrong side first when grabbing something or puttin' it back. It's really a minor complaint and maybe it's me.
Now I've just about talked myself into puttin' some identifier on the darn thing...see what you did :0PJ
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
Sure looks good, don't it ? If you want to give it a second chance, get some light-weight platic tubing to stand on end in the interior to make it more practical; you can use the little loops to hold up the tubes, or, you can clump together a bunch of tubes and throw an elastic around them. When we did a bud's, we needed some 2.5" for the big tools, the black pipe was too heavy, the white waste pipe was just right -golf-bag tubes cut into 5" lengths provided the small tubes (light, red, and don't rattle).
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
I convinced the wife to buy me the Veto PRO PAC for x-mas. I have to say it really is great for keeping your tools organized and is really heavy duty. Even empty its on the heavy side because of the thick plastic bottom and heavy material and it holds so many tools that it can get really weighted down. But the handle and shoulder strap work well and its easy to carry to the jobsite.
Veto Pro. I have the XL, and it carries 90% of the hand tools I need daily. The rest go in a plastic toolbox that stays in the truck.
It does get somewhat heavy, but the design is such that it isn't a big deal. The handle is nice and high so you don't have to stoop too far to pick it up, and it's narrow so your arm is close to your body when carrying it.
Expensive but worth it.
I almost...almost... went and got a Veto after seeing John Stevenson winning one at the '05Riverfest and being able to take a good gander at it.
But then I got to thinkin'. Ever get to thinkin'?
If one were inclined out of necessity to have a highend appearance when arriving at a job by all means that Veto is a sweet thing. An electrician's dream bag I would think.
But not having that reputation and being more they are just glad to see someone reliable show up, I opted to try the simple canvas tool tote with the handle they sell at HomeDepot.
Reasons being it is more like a lightweight version of the old wooden carpenter's toolbox of the past with the open top handle thing only with pockets and you always end up customing something on it anyhow.
Thought being that at a glance one would always be able to see where the tools are for easy grab and replacement. And it kinda works ok but anything is better than buckets even with the canvas pocket aprons inside and out.
Then I got to thinking again as there were still too many tools one needs to carry in wherever and not necessarily needed for sure at the time.
So, I went and got another to house just the most commonly used tools and use the other for the less frequented.
That kept the weight down pretty good and if bring in both makes it easier to balance in each hand.
Other even less used tools get the aproned buckets 'cause at least one can still see what's what at a glance, theoretically, for the trip back out to fetch a tool.
That and the cheap price of the carriers means I'm not going to be crying a whole lot when saw or drywall dust gathers on it, or someone splatters paint, or a dog pees:o) or whatever number of other niceties occur involving the thing after a few months down the line and the pretty boy look grows aged.
be a cheap replacement
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Edited 1/2/2007 6:13 pm ET by rez
Like everyone else on this thread I recommend the Veto. I have the XXL and that works well for me; most seem to prefer the XL. I had the XL and sold it to get the XXL. Longer tools don't do well in the XL.
A side benefit to the Veto is it always impresses a client. It never fails to get at least one comment on each job.
I have a tool carrier problem though-I just keep buying bags and boxes.
Maybe someday I'll know a little something.
Probably already been said, didn't read through entire thread first, but you should break down and get the Veto Pro XL.
"Being a cowboy aint all ridin and shootin" - Tim Mooney
I've got something like that only maybe a hair larger that I got at HD. It's whatever brand that is that HD has for their totes. I have three problems with it:
1) As you said, the inside pockets/loops aren't that useful (though I did manage to put some to use).
2) It's not large enough.
3) It's too large -- and heavy.
I have the rest of my tools mostly in several "rigger's bags". I got a couple from Northern Tool and a couple more from Harbor Freight. These are simple canvas bags (no zipper) with pockets on the outside. A hair smaller than the other bag. They're cheap, durable (though the white canvas gets dirty quickly), and they expand to hold a lot (more than the more rigid but larger bag, if youi stuff them).
I may eventually take the stuff out of the HD bag and put it back in the riggers bags, except that I need more bags, since the ones I was using have become occupied with other stuff.
(I kinda like the rigger's bags because you can easily have several organized by tasks.)
I have tried about everything except the Veto (have two Lowes clones that have been aging in the basement). I have many, many bags, bucket aprons, boxes, and what have you. All of them seem to have either too small or too large pockets, if right diameter, they are too short or too tall.
The only one that has come close to being gripe free is one of the CLC square elect. type bags.
I have that Harbor freight rigger's bag and find the pockets too tight and deep to get many tools into (what do you want for less than $10).
I figure by the time I get all this crap organized it will be in an estate sale.
I had a similar problem this summer. I wanted to revamp how I carried my electrical tools. I knew however that the totes, the square electrical totes, wouldn't hold the tools the way I wanted. The tools do all get buried at the bottom.
The answer for me was to hold out till I found one at Home Depot that would hold my big klein pouch in one side. leaving me the other side and the outer pockets for testers and tape etc. I didn't have to give up my Klein pouch which gave me small subdivisions to organize the tools. But I could carry more and be beter organized. I just weighed it and it came in at 21 pounds.
I think of all the similar totes I looked at the Husky tote at Home Depot is by far the best, and only 19 dollars.
The Veto propacks look great but I don't want to spend the extra cash.
Webby
Edited 1/2/2007 6:07 pm ET by webby
I haven't read any of the other responses but I know that I got to go with the others that have suggested the Veto.
Get one.
Binky Boodle is the man!
http://www.hay98.com/
I posted this pic of the Irwin bag just yesterday (in another thread).
How does this look to you (not bad and a third the price of Veto)?
Here is a link:
http://store.eldoradotoolsales.com/irw-420002.html
Edited 1/2/2007 6:44 pm ET by basswood
I got an Irwin and the bottom caved in...I carry a lot of sheet.I was ready to buy a Veto but, the big one is too big for the space I have in the truck, and the mid one doesn't have the space I need for the longer and bulkier items:16"level, dead blow hammer, cordless drill and battery, etc...so I went with the Ridgid bag...it's not perfect, but neither am I<G>...it holds a bunch of stuff, tho. Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61."
I have done some overloading of my bag too (trying to lighten up though ; ). I am going to make a plywood tray out of 1/4" birch plywood for the bottom. If I succeed in improving the Irwin without too much trouble, I'll post pics of that too.Nice to hear about the Ridgid. Thanks.
VETO PRO XXL have had this one for 2 years and if you can put more into it you can't carry it . web site in the fhb mag. every month. exlt. bag for the money. just over $100.00, very well made,too bad not in the USA !!!!
Veto is the only way to go. If was the best tool I ever bought for organizing.
Headstrong, I'll take on anyone!
I have Husky's version of that which ain't bad. It seldom or never leaves the truck, what I take out to on site is a large open tool tray with the tools I know that I am going to be using for the particular tasks at hand, that, and my toolbelt already filled with the basics. I just pull from the larger tool tote in the truck, and then return the tools from the tray back to it. 90% of my day is right there. Sure I have to go back for certain things, but mostly they are power tools which I keep in thier cases. For now it's the best system I've come up with. I've yet to see a perfect way. I like to lighten my load as the years go by.
I use the CLC #1539 bag. Lots of pockets, a safe place for my block plane, and the big center compartment for anything else.
Got it at HD.
I am a Bucket Boss user for now on. I am a general handyman and there are times when I could use every tool I own.
I used to have a regular tool bag but it never really worked out too well.
I have one basic tool bucket with a variety of hand tools, flashlite, assortment of screws, nails, a roll of duct tape, electrical tape, Teflon tape, a set of drill bits, driver bits, a drill and a driver etc. Thats the bucket that I use a Bucket Boss tool organizer. I can pretty much handle any call with that kit. The secret to fitting all that stuff in one kit is the size of the bucket. I got a hold of a 7gal (deep) bucket and it works great.
If I know what kind of service the customer needs ahead of time I'll bring an additional bucket.
I have developed job specific buckets. One for plumbing, one for masonry, one for drywall,etc....They are just empty joint compound buckets filled with all the tools required for that specific job. Whats great about them is that there is no hunting for different tools, they're always where they are supposed to be.
This system has been working out great for me. Maybe it'll work for you. Good luck!
~Mike~
Another thing you can do with a bucket is drill holes in the side and thread shock cord in and out to make tool loops.
Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm but the harm does not interest them. --T.S. Eliot
I have two of the Husky open totes, similar to what you show. One is for mechanicals and one for plumbing (sweat and finish). Rather like them.
They stow under deck of the van, out of sight, (queen sized bed or 54 CF of storage, depending) Converted the plumbing bucket to an open tote and it works better.
Yes, you can loose stuff on the inside of those totes. I can loose stuff in a 5g bucket - and it's deeper. I use small boxes and Husky tool wallets to organize stuff in the center. The active tools are all around the rim for quick access.
I also use 5g buckets with Husky organizers for trim, framing and electrical. All have organizer/seat lids with the common parts and fasteners for that trade.
The electrical bucket works the best. I do a lot of area lights, so I don't normally wear my sparkie bags. I just sit on the bucket with my commonly used dikes, strippers, etc., etc, all handy in the pockets below me on that side. The less commonly used tools are on the backside or on the inside.
The power tools are organized into Husky zipup bags with tags, so I don't grab the Bosch Colt when I wanted the Makita LiOn drills.
Got a Veto. Tried it. Not for me. Sits in attic. Someday it's use will come.
The ToolBear
"Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.
Well, bring me the Veto next time you're in the harbor. I'll treat ya' at the Ale House.