Have a client who dearly wants to shoehorn a small shower receptor in a powder room. For a bunch of reasons I’m trying to avoid the mud bed route. Anyone seen any teeny pans (like the ones on a boat)? Looking for a width probably of 24″ or so. None of the major vendors I checked out online offer anything…
PaulB
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There are no small shower pans for a reason... building code requires a 30" circle fit completely within the curb (not within the enclosure, which is larger). The smallest ones I have installed are the 39" neo-angle types. Florestone is a manufacturer you might want to check out.
Ahhhhhhhhhh... had a sneaking suspicion it was a code issue. Thanks David!
30" minimum circle in the shower gives jumping room, when the water is too hot or cold.
I put one of those 39" neo angles in our last house. There was precious little room in there... wash your hair too vigorously and risk putting an elbow thru the glass. Definitely no room to jump out of the way if the water got scalding.
For a bunch of reasons I'm trying to avoid the mud bed route.
Not gonna go there.............try googling motor home or camper trailer fixtures or somethings along those lines.
Overtons? a boating supply. Post Marine also, in New Rochelle, NY. I think they have a web site.
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Back in the 70's, I became acquainted with a couple who had built a "House Truck" on an old Diamond Reo Log truck.
Unlike some of those worn out, beat up, converted school buses with the "Hippy Killer" stoves (Salamanders and the like), this unit was bumper to bumper with excellent woodwork and cabinetry.
The shower was a solid brass affair, bought in some 2nd hand shop, that had once been the Captain's shower in a British Destroyer, circa 1920's.
It was definitely small....about 20" I.D. as I recall, with a direct overhead "rose" showerhead with chain pull valve. But it was really the ticket for their limited space and, polished up, was an attractive feature in their "home."
Sometimes, those kind of items pop up in a few of the Naval Antique shops found usually in some of the coastal towns around the US, where you can also find the old Divers hard hats, binnacles, and the like.
As mentioned, shower codes call out bigger, but there are ways of getting around that, once final inspections are complete, or (heaven forbid) a building permit was not filed.
Short of finding a genuine one, a decent metal worker could fab one out of brass or copper.
so what all of a sudden happend to U being the "i do all the trades guy"!
anyways ... small shower ... perfect time to learn the very simple art of mud bed showers. First step ... order Mike Burns book. Second step ... find the forums at http://www.johnbridge.com and se what they disagree about.
Then ... try an advanced search here for me ... and custom showers ... and maybe all the crap I've posted over the years will come up. Search Boris too.
Really not all that difficult at all ... and starting smaller is better.
And ... great "skill" to add to the "can-do" list when potential customers ... and better yet .... GC's come calling. Custom .. sure ... all day long. And since I do custom pans ... I also charge top dollar for the matching custom tile installs ...
then ... stick the tiles to the cement!
really ... give it a shot. I actually "avoid" using of the shelf pans! I don't think there is a better / more water proof wall/floor junction than a well designed custom mud pan.
with everything else ... your "junction" ... is a mere couple short inches above the drain ... and usually relies on caulk as the final insurance ... with a custom pan .... U can run the floor membrane up as high as ya like. Or kerdi it all ...
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Hey hey hey... First you try to get me to sub out and now...
Anyway, in this case I thought it would be a lot easier to just drop in a pan, but looks like it's time to try my hand at a mud bed. Eric recently did a great job on one for me, and I hope between watching him a bit and some reading I can pull it off. I'll buy plenty of buckets to put below just in case.
PaulB
ok .. or sub the mud pan.
But a small one is the perfect "starter size".
Might not get another good chance to see if U love or hate them.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa