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Need Help with Metal Building

CloudHidden | Posted in General Discussion on August 29, 2004 01:43am

I may have mentioned once or twice that my daughter is into gymnastics. Sooooo, the gym owner decides to move to a new building. And I decide that the move will be easier and the quality higher if the parents help. The building’s a typical metal building, which is about as far away from what I work with daily as you can get. So I gotta pick your brains. Thanks for any ideas.

Here’s the building…

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Gotta fireproof the walls. The paint’s expensive. Other choices are fabric, metal, drywall. Cheapest solution will win be/c a gym isn’t especially a cash cow. Anyone have experience with this and already found the best solution/source?

We’re also trying to turn the mezzanine into spectator viewing. Any ideas for the railing? Wanna be able to see the kids, so typical picket fence style is inconvenient. Glass or plexiglass would be better, but cost. Any one encounter any cheap, effective solutions?

Here’s what we’re trying to create…all ideas appreciated…most of this is happening with volunteer labor and as many donated materials as possible…biggest expense is the need to change all the bathrooms…gotta add 6 fixtures….arrgh.

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  1. DanH | Aug 29, 2004 02:09am | #1

    Sell all those cars and you'll have plenty of money to remodel the place.

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      ProBozo | Aug 29, 2004 02:15am | #2

      and it looks like you really need a roof.    :)

      i'm gonna pass this along to SIL, see what idears she has

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      CloudHidden | Aug 29, 2004 02:58am | #6

      Ha ha. Prior (current) tenant, of course. Keys in 'em, too! Landlord wouldn't turn her back. Darn.

      1. brownbagg | Aug 29, 2004 05:48am | #7

        walls already fireproof, metal, fiberglass. nothing to burn

        1. DanH | Aug 29, 2004 05:51am | #8

          You would likely need to fireproof the girders, somehow, to make it legal for an arena-type use.

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          CloudHidden | Aug 29, 2004 06:03am | #9

          The fiberglass can catch fire. Need materials that don't. Gotta cover the fg.

          1. RalphWicklund | Aug 29, 2004 06:46am | #10

            Here's a start on your search

            http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?name=BXUV.U419&ccnshorttitle=Fire+Resistance+Ratings+-+ANSI/UL+263&objid=1074330521&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1073984818&sequence=1

            This just happens to be the specs I used on a current job.

            There are many different Fire resistant assemblies you can use to get the results that are required by code.

            On another job the specs were for a one hour wall in a steel building just like yours. The engineer had hat channel attached to the steel framing, one layer of 5/8 type X screwed to that and taped, 3 5/8 studs stood up next with another layer of type X screwed to that. Taped and finished.

            The inspector NEEDED to see that the rock was on both sides of the studs and to count the screws. That's why this assembly was designed. I don't recall a requirement for any application to the ceiling.

            Somewhere in the ANSI/UL 263 is an assembly that can be put up in sections that doesn't require the both sides covered and inspected separately look. My inspector looked it up for me but I had already completed the framing on the floor to rock and stand up. Too much trouble to change horses at that point.

  2. fredsmart48 | Aug 29, 2004 02:15am | #3

    I like the kid's expression, don't mess with me look.  Just get this done look. 

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      EricPaulson | Aug 29, 2004 02:41am | #4

      yeah, I'm with FRED. she's like; "so what's up with this, and where's the equipment?"

      EricEvery once in a while, something goes right!

      1. xMikeSmith | Aug 29, 2004 02:53am | #5

        cloud..... me... i'd run steel studs from the floor to the ceiling.. you can splice them in place if you want.. shoot the studs into the red steel whalers all around the wall.. then

        5/8 type x and tape the joints..

        if you had more money.. i'd use a 1/2 OSB backer before the sheetrock...

        some rolling staging.. some goggles ... and shots.. some ear protection.. the studs will up in short order..

         screwguns and diamond point piffen screws.. and your rock will be hung..

        i'd use Durabond 90 for the first tape.. and joint compound for the 2d ( and final ) coatMike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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