Today I saw an 8 1/4″ power miter box in HD for $39! !WOW! It was a Workforce brand. I think those are made in China by child labor 😉 Just think – you wouldn’t ever have to change a blade again – just throw the whole thing away and get another unit. Heck, it would save time in loading the truck too. Just bring it in the house, leave it there for the duration of the job, and don’t bother loading it up when the job is done. Expendable tool!
Now all I need is one of those $9 hose-less trim guns. Holds 2000 shots – not reloadable – throw it away when it’s empty. 😉
BTW – for anybody who didn’t see the smiley face in the thread title – it’s a joke…
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Couldn't save it 'till April first, eh?
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I'm serious about the $39 saw though...
Edit: not serious enough to buy one though ;-)
Edited 1/28/2006 6:55 pm ET by Matt
I looked at that same saw after lugging my 12" Mak SCMS half a block. What it lacks in quality, it more than makes up for it in slop. I'm guessing it wouldn't last the first ten minutes on a pro site, as it would be airborn out the nearest window in about that time span. Cheap junk at best, a waste of man hours to make and a waste of materials to make it, at worst.
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Hmm , now ya really whizzed me off ! <G>
Ill have you know [grinnnin] I keep a 9 inch trim saw in house for specialty jobs.
Its the first trim saw I ever did see. er one like it .
Its a Rockwell . But , its quality. Prime my man. <G>
Tim
is that the one that would make a good substitute for a boat anchor?
My dad's first miter saw was a 9 or 10" Rockwell, and must have weighed over 100 lbs.
Fortunately, he had me to carry that beast around.
Im trying to remember when it first came out .
65 to 70?
Yea for its size its pretty heavy. Its got a belt drive and it breaks.
Tim
1966 for the 9" Rockwell power miter saw. Revolutionized the industry. People drop their jaws when I describe the particle board "table" and how it wore out with use.Bill
Yea it had a pos table too.
But it was dead on accurate enough for cabinet styles or anything it was big enough to do.
Thing is back then about all we did was 2 1/4 trim and it was sweet. I mean for back then , lol.
Tim
my dad's must have been a different model- the table wasn't particle board, but cast as part of the machine, like chop saws today.
my brother still has it. I'll have to look at it sometime and get the model #
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Edited 1/29/2006 8:41 am ET by Shep
I gave up the left index finger tip up to the first joint doing a mitre cut on one of those gray Rockwell monsters.
The saw would hang up half way through the cut, you had to give an extra pull to finish through.
The next day another carp cut off the same tip of his finger. They finally decided that maybe the saw was worn out. This was about 20 years ago or so.
yup the old Rockwell first saw I ever owned bought it used from the guy I was working for belt drive thing was the ####'s till he brought out his new elu scms wow then that Rockwell seem like a well it seemed bad but I stilled trimmed some houses with it and built a lot of mantels
My Hitachi 10" SCMS is a belt drive. The belt allows the motor to be smaller (less power needed for the start up than a direct drive) and the belt allows the motor to be moved away from the line of sight. Smaller motor also means less amps (mine is a 12 amp) and less weight.I've had to replace one belt in 10 years (now I have a spare belt...somewhere ; )
i wasn't saying belt drives are bad but the old rockwell seemed to be very hard on belts well any how you missed the just of the post
My Unisaw is belt drive, just recently put on the third set of belts in 66 years.
-- J.S.
My first chop saw was 10" Bought it when I was about 15 I think, that would've been in '93, all cast iron and metal, I think the only plastic on the thing was the blade gaurd and knobs...
then I leant it to someone and it came back all rusty and beat up.
It was a great saw, but damn heavy.
I was in HD the other day and they had sliders on clearence for 50 bucks!
I saw some poor sap homeowner picking one up.
My first miter box was a 10" Black & Decker Industrial. I got it as a hand me down. Worked great, but I upgraded to a used 8 1/4" Hitachi. I used that until 2 years ago when I bought a new Bosch 4410.--------------------------
It's only satisfying if you eat it.
My first was a Rockewell 9". Back in the day, it was thetits
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I'd buy it if I already didn't have my throw away Delta ... think it's a 8.25 also.
paid $80 for that. So cheap ... doesn't even have a knob to swing the table ... just a little pin ...
but ... works great for cutting paint grade casing, base and shoe!
weights something like 20 lbs ... got it when I found myself lined up to trim one too many attic conversions. 3 flights of stairs ... U start looking for "small and light" ...
put a $40 blade on an $80 saw and she worked just fine. I saw that $39 deal ....
I felt ripped off!
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
My first miter box was a Millers Falls non electric with a 36" x 6" backsaw, and a heavy cast iron base. Cost me over $150 brand new at the time. This was about 1975. It's a beauty and served me well for about 3 years till I bought my first electric, the Delta 8.25" sawbuck. I don't really know why I didn't go electric at first, I guess because I learned trim on an old Stanley and wanted just to stick with it. The saw is somewhat obsolete now but if you combine it with my Lion miter trimmer, it does top notch. I keep it because you don't see those old quality tools much anymore. Just can't part with it.
I still have my old Stanley. Just loaned it to friend last weekend. All he was doing was making straight cuts for a crown mldg. installed to those ugly little corner blocks they sell at HD. I offered to run it for him, if I could watch him try to cut and cope the first piece, <g>.
I learned to trim on the old Stanley and Miller Falls rigs. That old monster Rockwell with the particle board table was the first power miter saw I ever used. I thought I had to have one too, but the cost kept me using the old Stanley. You had to learn to measure and cut trim with that old box. No creeping up on the mark. To long by a fuzz, get old the block plane. To short by a fuzz, get another stick of trim.
Dave
I also keep my old Stanley up and running. It's a great saw and doesn't generate the dust or noise the others do. It's just not very portable, needs care when moving from place to place.My old partilce board Rockwell has been out of service for some time because it was dropped and the main casting bent just enough to keep it from being able to be retrued. It pulls tours from time to time when just chopping up bracing.I also have an old PC 7700 that I got in 91 or 92 when I saw Norm on TOH using a laser. It still works just fine but as I get older it gets heavier.My favorite at the moment is a Hatachi C10FSH, lighter than the Dewalt and able to handle most trim cuts.
So tell us about the saw buck.
By the time I really wanted one they quit making them .
Tim
The amazing thing about the Sawbuck was how bloody accurate it could be. You would look at it and think that it would be great for rougher cutting but not for cabinetwork. Very wrong. It was a great tool if you were to set it up and not move it much. Its drawback of course was how big and heavy it was. You really couldn't haul it up too many stairs just for a days work. Another drawback was the swing of the table was so great that after a while it was a real effort to change angles on the thing. You had to keep it clean and the slider arms oiled so they wouldn't rust. Another thing was that it had a fixed front to the moving table and of course the back was fixed with the bars running between the two, this is probably why it was so accurate with very little wandering if any, but what it meant was that you couldn't cut anything wider than a 16" piece by flipping it.
The plusses were that it was a compound cutter (one way)...you didn't see too many back then, the crosscut went way up to 16" on a 90 deg....that's a lot. When all the bolts were tightened and things were adjusted it was very accurate. It had a set of wheels on it to roll it around the site, it had its own fold out legs which made it nice to have a ready made cut table, it had it's own extension supports which could go out about 30"
I still have the thing and haven't used it in a few years, but it's just the berries to cut siding with. It has been sitting out in the shed along with the shovels and shale bars, probably getting rusty. Again, another tool I hate to part with but will some day soon when it's necessary.
Thanks for that information.
I wanted one bad . I was too late. I wanted one for homeade trusses. The Saw Buck has a side notch in both sides you can slip a 2x12 into as you know . So the result is you can have a fence as long as you want but it would be easy to have 20 foot fences on it . Of course my theory there was rep cutting a full set of trusses. .
Tim
my grand father is a carpenter he still uses his old miter box it could be a stanley or millers falls. when i go and see him and all his old style tools i am amazed he can get anything done but he still builds amazing cedar strip canoes and cabinets with all this old stuff .he even uses his old drill press for a shaper/router table but he has a modern table saw about 1970 beaver delta belt drive .when he look's in the back of my truck he always has this puzzeld look on his face as to say why do you have so many tools ..oh last time i was ther he was setting up his new DeWalt thickness planer wonder if he even nows how to plug it in ????
You cherish that time you spend with him, then later you can do it with your own or somebody else. It's good stuff.