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   Junkman001 | May 08, 2009 03:28am | #1

   You lost me.  Are you going out of and  back into the same box?

    

   Mike

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   mdcc | May 08, 2009 03:54am | #2

   sorry about that.  no, I have three wires in the box. supply line coming in on top left entry, one wire leaving top right entry and one wire coming out a bottom entry point.  All three wires are going up the stud to the ceiling.  Does that help?

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   DanH | May 08, 2009 03:58am | #3

   He's looping the wire around the box and under it to enter the box. Presumably because other wires are entering from the top.My understanding (until a real sparky comes along to correct me) is that it does not need to be stapled under the box, if the box has some sort of retainer built in (or if you're using a metal box with separate clamps). But when you measure the loop you're getting pretty darn close to 12" if you staple above the box, so it may be just as easy to staple under as it is to squeeze one in above.Without the built-in retainer you need to be within 4-6 inches -- I forget exactly.
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   Sphere | May 08, 2009 04:14am | #4

   I dunno that part. But does your local code allow metal staples? Ours requires the plastic type with two nails.

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   mdcc | May 12, 2009 03:55am | #17

   yup metal staples are good.  I guess inspectors get a little twitchy here if they are not done right.  Dead give away that a home owner has done some of the work. 

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   WHILEWEREATIT | May 08, 2009 04:41am | #5

   Maybe a simplistic answer but; just rout the wire into the top with one of the other wires!

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   mdcc | May 12, 2009 03:57am | #18

   Apparantly the inspectors here frown on that.  one hole, one wire.

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   MSA1 | May 08, 2009 04:59am | #6

   Think logically. You're stapling the wire to protect it from damage in this case keeping it from getting in the way of the drywall guys.

    

   Family.....They're always there when they need you.

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   mdcc | May 12, 2009 03:47am | #16

   just don't want a situation where, down the road when the wall is closed in, someone pulls on that cable and kinks it because a staple is in the loop.  If the loop is not behaving and looks too close to the drywall surface I suppose I will put a loose staple.  then a pull would dislodge the staple before it damages the wire. 

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   MikeHennessy | May 08, 2009 02:28pm | #7

   I just staple at the top. No inspector has ever made an issue of it, so long as it's stapled somewhere near the box. Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had an inspector pull out a ruler to check the staples. ;-)

   Mike Hennessy
   Pittsburgh, PA
   Everything fits, until you put glue on it.

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   Scott | May 09, 2009 07:36pm | #8

   I think you're ok doing that.

   Scott.

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   excaliber32 | May 09, 2009 10:02pm | #9

   If your not exactly 12", most inspectors will let it go as long as they see that you made a great effort and have staples in most places where staples need to be.

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   gfretwell | May 10, 2009 12:26am | #10

   You never get in trouble with too many staples and for most homeowners a box is a lifetime supply. When in doubt, staple it.

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   DanH | May 10, 2009 12:27am | #11

   Actually, it only takes one staple to be too many -- if it goes through the cable.
   The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -John Kenneth Galbraith

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   JTC1 | May 10, 2009 12:31am | #12

   All of my inspections:

   Top of box would be just fine, provided the cable does not have a huge loop under the box.

   Jim 

   Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
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    brucet9 | May 10, 2009 04:14am | #13

    I'm with WHILEWEREATIT , 14-2 is small, so I'd just bring it in at the top along with one of the other cables.

    BruceT
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   fingersandtoes | May 11, 2009 06:19pm | #14

   When I'm doing my own wiring, I always reserve the top left for power in. It sometimes makes for some odd looking loops around the box but avoids future confusion.

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   excaliber32 | May 12, 2009 02:10am | #15

   Good practice. Also, I like to see power out/in in the same connector (or knock-out) and switch-legs by themselves. Makes it easier on the next guy. Another thing is to use the knock-out closest to the direction the power out goes--really makes it easier on the next guy, or yourself if you find out that you wired the box wrong and need to chase down all those wires.