Forgot to ask this too. Owens-Corning says that the roof decking must be dry before, during and after shingle insulation. I’ve seen felt kinda wrinkle up when wet. Is this a problem? What do you pros think about waiting for dry weather. I’m near Seattle and it ain’t stopped raining for months – with no letup in sight.
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as long as it doesn't wash ya off the roof ...
roof away.
just like the mailman ... thru rain/sleet/snow ... dark of night ... summer heat ... etc.
otherwise ... how would the world get built?
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
See if Titanium UDL or RooftopguardII is sold in your area. Neither will wrinkle. We don't shingle in the rain, but we'll start as soon as it quits. We often have to deal with snow and hard frost. We put tarps on to keep the area dry 'til the snow quits and then pull the tarp off and shingle on.
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We've shingled in the rain many times with no problem. We have used straightedges/gages/stretched string to overcome the chalkline problem in the rain, but as far as a wrinkle problem - no.
That is another reason to use the new synthetic underlayment products. 30# felt will wrinkle bad enough to make it hard to anil down without hurting the shingles, pluss adding to your frustration.
I would not want to place underlayment on soaking wet sheathing, but a light sprinkle first is aceptable.
I piuty you your location. I think I have only had to roof in the rain once or twice in my whole life.
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rain's not bad ...
finishing up in a driving sleet sucks!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
The weather ALWAYS sucks when roofing. ;-)Troy Sprout
Square, Level & Plumb Renovations
What would suck would be a hailstorm when you're about 80% done.
If ignorance is bliss why aren't more people
happy?
We just got all the shingles and gutters stripped off and the new epa improved cheapened 15# felt all stapled and stringed on a fairly fancy house and about 12:00 that night we got a 3 - 4 incher. So here I am up in that attic with the home - owner/ professor spreading out plastic drops under drips with his violin playing wife below yelling out worst case scenarios and rare wallpaper reports. 15# felt wasn't what it used to be. The drips were coming in the staple holes. The next day we caulked all the staples. They turned on the "whole house fan" - that tested the tarpaper and string. It held, and did we ever get to shingling - rain or not.
Around here they rarely strip more roof than they can finish in a day. Few roofers would leave a roof on a finished home with just felt -- they'd tarp it if they couldn't finish.
If ignorance is bliss why aren't more people
happy?
DanH,Research is expensive and that is a good idea. The problem is we had had such success before. They upped the price on the dumpsters and shortened the time before extra charges (not that that's an excuse), we wanted to do it all at once. You're right though. We should have sharpened our pencils more and figured that in.
So here I am up in that attic with the home - owner/ professor spreading out plastic drops under drips with his violin playing wife below yelling out worst case scenarios and rare wallpaper reports.
Damm, that spurred a story but it doesnt belong here .
I can feel your pain.
Tim
Is that why you became predominately a drywaller, ha? (I may be wrong but somewhere I got that impression). We HAVE retired from roofing - the guy I work with says, "what' we gonna' retire from next?" (Of course, we may have to come OUT of retirement but we can do it).
I dont know what you meant .
What I meant is that its one thing to be azz deep tryin to save them with out having them to deal with at the same time .
Its kinda like having the mother and the motherinlaw in the delivery room.
So Ill tell my story thats unrelated to this thread ;
I was working on a church behind the pulpit on a 32 foot ladder painting crown mold white in color with cream walls . We were done except a 20 foot portion of that trim. I had a painter on the foor that had washed every thing and he was done and wanted instrctions on whats next. I said pick up the drop cloths and lets get out of here. Saturday evening and church in the morning . I dint look down and didnt think and neither did he I suppose. He pulled the drop under the ladder first. I didnt notice and was hauling butt cutting in looking up. I started comming down the ladder and I heard a ladies voice shriek. I dropped the bucket of paint and it hit the red carpet and and sprayed out about 40 feet . [white on crimson red carpet] She had did the shrieking yell because she had seen him pull the drop under me and she started thinking aout the carpet. I came on down and noticed the drapery over the baptistry was dripping white paint and they were red in color too. 4 ladies had followed her in and they went beserk . They were also doing worse case senarios and kept talking non stop to me . I needed to get a plan of action but was azz deep in ladies going berserk. Finally I just left them and went to the pastors office to use the phone . I told DW to get a dry cleaners that would do the drapery and come get um. Emergency and hung up. I told the helper to get enough water hose to wet the carpet and that took a couple of minutes for that request to sink in on him. If we dont wet the carpet we can lose it to the paint for it needs to keep a wet edge. I took the drapes down and and sprayed them down out side on the walk. DW came and took them and I went and rented a steam cleaner . It was about 2 am when we hung the drapes up over clean carpet. The ladies didnt leave till about 11 oclock . You would have thought that someone had died . When they finally saw the carpet clean they settled down. I could have used that attitude at 5 pm.
Tim
Mooney,That was GREAT! I can't stop laughing.Fz
Set that one next to Mary's blue paint dog story and you can bring down the house at any ceremony you ever do public speaking at.
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I remember that one too!
working with my Dad ... my parents front porch roof ... luckily ... not too big ... Dad got smart and hid .... Mom found a hard hat in the basement and handed it out the BR window. Small pea size hail ... more annoying than painful.
That is one roofing job I'll always remember ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
The problem with small hail is you can never be sure it won't get larger. I always run for cover if hail starts -- I've seen the big stuff and don't care to be out in it -- scary enough in a car.
If ignorance is bliss why aren't more people
happy?
I remember way long time ago in Texas - running from the mobile home to the storm shelter ( this was shortly after I'd had the distinct impression that the toilet seat had just shifted under my butt like a bareback bronc) through a terrible downpour of hail. It was only about 100-150 feet, but the hailstones were ranging in size fraon marbles to a bit less than goldballls, and my back and shouilders were bruised and sore feeling the next day.
My car took a beatin too, but it was a beater
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I was caught in one in my old Vega many years back. Tennis-ball sized hail, and I was sure the windshield would crack, but it didn't. (Trust me, I was seeing that hail real up close and personal, and it was AT LEAST tennis-ball sized.) That old Vega was built like a tank -- only three barely perceptable dents in the roof -- but an auto dealer half a mile away got totally trashed.
If ignorance is bliss why aren't more people
happy?
caught in one in my old Vega many years back.
I had one of them. pos huh? LOL.
Tim
Actually, I loved the old Vega. It was put together poorly (the left fender was assembled in the wrong order in the factory, eg), and the engine basically wore out at 50K (though I put another 40K on it after that). But the thing drove like a sports car, had the best snow traction of any car I've ever had, started easily in the cold, had a decent heater, and really had not rusted badly by the time I ditched it at about 90K. It also could tow a pretty decent load without handling problems.I would have kept it longer, but the tank trailer for oil would have been a bit much.
If ignorance is bliss why aren't more people
happy?
"That old Vega was built like a tank "LOL, except for the AL heads!
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I assume you'll want to wait for a dry day to strip and prep the roof with whichever underlayment you wind up choosing.
Once prepped there is no problem with shingling while it's raining.
If you stop part way up the side you're on and might not continue for several days-and you expect rain,then dry in with underlayment over your shingle tops and under your nearest lap above where you've stopped shingling.
This keeps all the water from going down behind the shingles already on and finding nail holes to enter the structure.
Here the roofers run around doing emergency patch calls when it rains. Bigger jobs wait for dry weather. We've had maybe 2 or 3 days of rain since last summer, IIRC.
-- J.S.
Didn't think ya'll used shingles up there.
Last year I was up there and saw a lot of roofs with grass growing on them.
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