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shingles on a sheet

steveworks | Posted in General Discussion on August 1, 2004 03:33am

Hi al,

 

A client of mine has finally decided to reshigle her house ( but not before I install some gutters!)  She wants to save some $ and put up the pre fab “shingles on a sheet”  Must of watched T.O.H.  I”ve never installed them I been doing it the ole fashioned way.  a contractor friend of mine said the shingles fall apart in 3-5 years.

Anybody have any info.  I assume the cost is less than a “traditional” install, but by how  much.  what’s the cost as compared to clabs?  Can you do a corner weave with them?

 

Thanks

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  1. DanH | Aug 01, 2004 03:43am | #1

    There are several different varieties. A church near here was done with some sort of roll roofing that goes on diagonally and looks vaguely like dog-eared slate when it's all installed. The trained eye can see the "rolls", but probably most people don't notice. Been there for ten years or so and still looks OK. (Never really looked great, though.)

    -----

    Guess I failed to pick up on the "woven corners" -- was thinking "woven valleys". The only siding shingles sheets I've ever seen are those crappy plastic/asbestos things, sometimes also made to look like stone.



    Edited 8/1/2004 8:18 am ET by DanH

  2. Piffin | Aug 01, 2004 03:50am | #2

    Are you talking siding shingles or roofing shingles?

    Sounds like siding to me.

    I don't like the stuff. It is less weather resistant if she gets any windblown rain, so it should definitely have a rainscreen system behind it.

    Corners - the ones I saw, you had tro run their prefabed stuff up nea the corner, and then weave the regular shingles to get a corner like that. These are more intended for cornerboard style jobs with fewer corners. Too many jigs and jogs and the waste factor will kill any gains.

     

     

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      NickNukeEm | Aug 01, 2004 05:16am | #3

      They also make a prefabbed woven corner that looks like a corner board with applied shingles.  I guess because that's what it is.  Watched Mike Guertin work with the stuff in Providence, and it does go up quickly.  But there is a repeatability factor, albeit a small one as the manufacturer tried to eliminate it as much as possible, and it only shows up in large expanses of shingles.

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      1. Piffin | Aug 01, 2004 05:42am | #4

        is that the new one that Miabec is doing? 

         

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          NickNukeEm | Aug 01, 2004 06:01am | #5

          That's the one.

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          1. Piffin | Aug 01, 2004 07:05am | #6

            They did look quite a bit better than the ones from twenty years ago.

            But I'm an old dog who likes it too much to let somebody else butter his bread 

             

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            NickNukeEm | Aug 01, 2004 03:36pm | #9

            BTW, the Maibec system I saw had an integral rain screen built into it, if I remember right.  I also remember thinking that with sheathing already in place, by the time you add the panels, which were getting pretty thick with a backer board, rain screen and shingles, there was gonna be some work required to prevent the trim from being buried below the shingle plane; just another factor that needs to be considered.

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    Luka | Aug 01, 2004 11:41am | #7

    Oh.

    Sorry.

    Excuse me.

    Continue on, gentlemen.

    I read the title and thought it was a new railroad diner here.

    Dangit. Now I'm goinna have Alice on my mind all night.

    "Criticism without instruction is little more than abuse." D.Sweet

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      IMERC | Aug 01, 2004 11:52am | #8

      Or SOS....

      Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

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    Dez | Aug 03, 2004 11:38pm | #10

    Steveworks,

    You might want to check this link out. They are called "shakertown" panels. (something like 16"X96") and are shiplapped.  I have only installed this product once...but still looking good after 8-9 years. They have pre-made corners to go with the panels.

    http://www.michiganprestain.com

    Peace

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      Mongo | Aug 06, 2004 09:15am | #11

      My biggest gripe with the shingle panels is where the breaks between the adjacent shingles fall.

      It's not uncommon to see the breaks from three or even four courses virtually stacked, one lined up above the other.

      It just doesn't look right. To me, at least.

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        Dez | Aug 07, 2004 12:55am | #12

        Mongo,

         

        I don't remember that being a problem...but it was a while back. Comes to mind that I had to fuss with the ready made corners though. I think it was that they didn't always line up on the horizontal plane with the panels.

         

        Something that I didn't like...the job looked great...then they painted it 'Battle ship gray.' Yuck!

         

        Peace

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