Looking for a lightweight jobsite table saw. Anyone have any experience with the Skil model. Dewalt and Bosch make great saws, I’m not interested in something that heavy or expensive.
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Dewalt and Bosch make great saws
When did DW turn around and start making anything great...
How can you compare DW to Bosch??? In the same sentenance no less...
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In principle I agree with you about DW compared to Bosch but that DW table saw is a very good piece of equipment. The fence alone saves more time and hassle than any other portable table saw I've used. You might try one out sometime before deeming all DW as $h!t. It even handled an 8" stacked dado well. But yes, in almost every other category, Bosch kicks DW's tail...
I have used DW's contractor and portable models... A lot...
They are not in the same league as Bosch... The DW owner prefers to use my Bosch...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
I've had the Dewalt for 5 years of almost daily use and abuse, and I absolutely love it. It will rip 16 foot 2x12's in the rain all day, and with just a blade change and wiping the mud and mushy sawdust off, move inside and let me do the most demanding finish work. You cannot beat this saw.
I have the DW too, and while it is serviceable, she must be the ugly stepsister to your princess. Either that, or your eyes are blinded by love and infatuation. After fie years of happy marriage, who am I to knock it?
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I've had mine about the same amount of time ....
but I'm here in beautiful sunny Pittsburgh ...
don't even know what rain or snow is???
So maybe my saw just get's babied ...
or maybe we both know how to change a blade ever now and then ...
Great saw ... if and when it dies .... it'll get replaced by the same ...
but back to the original Q ....
my Dad got a Delta as a little cheapie he could carry around ...
like most any saw ... a good blade and knowing how to set the fence and check it with a tape ... and it'll work just fine.
JeffBuck Construction, llc Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
I think you need to try the Dewalt 10" portable tablesaw I have had one 4 years and i can say its the best tablesaw i ever owned The rack and pinion fence system is smooth and accurate. power is exceptional, I do alot of IPE mahoghany work and it cuts it fine. Its adjustments and power blow away Makita and i think its just as good as Bosch.
I am a carpenter with 25 years of experience and appreciate your comment of comparing Dewalt with Bosch but give Dewalt a try , I own alot of there stuff and use it every day with great luck
I have...
Company owned that I've worked for or folks that I know that own them.. I still say, over-all, Bosch has the edge...
Fred, D and Anne Marie all have the DW portables that're 3-5YO and I've used them extensively.. They're a good saw but I think the Bosch is better... Less quirks, hassels, easier to change the settings and a lot more forgiving...
The worse thing I reccolect of the DW's is that the heigth adjustment can be a PITA at times and if you bang the fence with a piece of stock it's adjustment time...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
So help me out here, buddy. Does the Bosch have the same kind of outfeed and support as you can get with the Rousseau table? Serious question here, not being a wiseguy. On most jobs, I rip 4x8 sheets of soffit material and maybe some 5/8 primetrim. The outfeed tables on the Rousseau are great for this. I'm sure the fence on the Bosch is the equal of the Rousseau, but I've never seen the outfeed tables.
Bosch has outfeed and left extension... Get yurself a rollerstand or two and there's no limit.. I do 4x8-3/4... That's pushing it....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
Can't comment on the Rousseau...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
Ryobi has that $200 unit that has the stand and wheels already on it. I don't know if it's any good but it's cheap.
Watch out for the ones that say they are maximum developed 3 horsepower. I think they are really only 1 hp. I fell for that one this spring.
Dave
For the jobsite I use a 10" Delta. I've had it over 1 year. The switch went bad and the dealer (who wants to continue to get all my tool business) replaced it for free. Of course a decent blade goes along way also. Its light weight...carried in one hand. I use it daily and it performs very well.
MES
I had the DW for about a year. It was a good saw, the fence was great. I also like the ability to rip 24". The motor quit, and the dealer told me that it would be cheaper to buy a new saw than replace the motor. Kind of pissed me off.
I bought the $ 170 Skil at HD to get me by, and actually it is a decent saw. The fence is junk, doesn't stay parallel to the blade, so you need to check it front and back, plus you can only rip 12", but it has plenty of power. Louder than hell, but I can buy 3 of them for the price I paid for the DW.
I would like to hear some more about that Bosch saw though. I need to be able to rip more than 12".
Cole
Cole Dean
Dean Contracting
The 4000T Bosch will rip 25"...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
Cole, I respect the fact you are in business and are willing to save a few bucks on a saw. I did, once, too.
I had a crew building a deck. There was no table, the Delta was clamped on to a door on sawhorses. One day I watched my carp set up a cut - measure at the back o the blade, measure at the front, readjust, to the back, readjust.......it took him about 45 seconds to set up the cut, and then, even with the clamps, 2 people had to run the board to keep it straight. It was the start of the project. We were going to be making a lot of cuts over the next few months.
I went out the next day and bought the Bosch TS4000.
It was simple arithmetic.
Carpenter @ $25.00/hr doing 30 cuts a day x 45 sec a cut = 22.5 min a day = $8.30 a day x 5 days a week = $41.75 (approximately) or $166.75 a month.
With the Bosch, after getting it dialed in, cuts were made in about 10-15 seconds, costing $2.70 per day, $13.87 a week or about $55.00 a week. In other words, in just one month I could save over $100.00 of the carpenter's wages by the better fence and better ergonomics. And that's 30 cuts a day.
I realized I could not afford to keep the saw. I gave it away.Quality repairs for your home.
Aaron the HandymanVancouver, Canada
NOW
the fat lady can sing!
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I think what you wrote about is a silent arguement . I happen to agree with you on "all"equipment. Before anyone considers a tool purchase that makes a living doing it , that person should consider time saved . If its a smart time saver , the choice is a no brianer.
Even though I bought the DW portable , it doesnt matter because its paid for it self .
My roller gun that hooks to an airless is paid for ,
My DW cordless drills are paid for ,
My DW chop saw is paid for but my DW slider isnt because it is too heavy to haul.
There are still people painting sided houses with brushes and building with hammers alone .
I have noticed the hand saws laid down for the major part of framing .
Tim Mooney
Whatever you get look at adding the Rousseau folding table & fence. $300 bucks and you'll throw out the old fence. Wish I had bought it years ago.
It's funny you mention Rousseau. I bought the Rousseau kit (including the extension for wide material and the table that hooks on to catch material) years ago. The model was designed to fit my old Makita 8 inch saw. That saw died a natural death. When I looked for a replacement, I went looking for a saw that would fit my Rousseau set up. The only one that fit was the Rigid 10 inch. It took some remodeling to get the attachement right but the sucker fitted perfectly. Noisy as heck but I get assured results with it. It easily competes with Delta "contractor saws" and I can easily move the thing around by myself.
In addition, I made a router table set up in on one of the Rousseau panels that uses the same fence as the table saw ( I have a wood fence I made that slips over the metal Rousseau fence so I can bury the bit however much I need).
I wish all my other tool choices had worked out as well as this.
Lenny
I have the Bosch and I like the Rousseau.
But, I only like the Rousseau if someone else has it on there saw, I like the idea that I can load my saw up in the truck in about 20 seconds.
Doug
I never thought id admit this, but I have the ryobi "BT3100" (i think) and its a really good saw. I paid about 300.00 for it. The fence stays straight and I can mount a router under the table. I'm no fan of ryobi but I had used my buddies saw before and I feel its a good value.
Don't have a DeWalt tablesaw. Have plenty of other DW stuff. Around here Bosch is pretty much considered as a throw away tool. About like a Ryobi. Delta was so good in the past that if you got one then you are still using it. Other than the bumps and bruises of careful use good tools stay good if maintained. My '73 pickup has been through 3 engines, two paint jobs, a zillion oil changes and is still better than the newer pickup I had before it. I don't live in a throwaway world. Tyr.
Yur killing me here...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
Thanks for acknologing my victory. Time for bed and work tomorrow.
Try
I'll be patient..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
reebok:
I just bought one of those Ryobi 10" with the folding stand. At literally 1/2 the cost of the Bosch/DW/Ridgid, AND a full 3-5/8" depth of cut I couldn't let the name scare me off. In the right hands a less than perfect tool will give great results. So far my only complaint is that it's heavy and with the built in stand a bit bulky for getting into the truck. (looks like another round of remodelling the truck shelves). W'll see how this thing holds up after a few months ... got a 30 day no hassle return feature.... how can I lose?
Cheers
Andy
In my search for the perfit set up a few ywears agao I finally settled on a Trojan saw stand mated on a 10" Makitia. Easy to move around and set up and cabin saw results from the set up. I've added a router to the right hand extention and can handle what ever comes up these days.
[img]http://www.mytoolstore.com/trojan/rip_out3.jpg[img]
Edited 9/15/2004 7:15 am ET by HammerII
Edited 9/15/2004 7:33 am ET by HammerII
Ok lets try this for a picture
Ok here's a attached picture of the trojan saw stand