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   Francis_Miles | Sep 12, 2001 01:15pm | #1

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   Bob, what is the correct method to use in this case?
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   jean-paul_rehr | Sep 12, 2001 03:42pm | #2

   *Open up the wall, tie balcony framing into the house framing, close it up and flash it really well.JP

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   Pro-Dek | Sep 12, 2001 05:09pm | #3

   *Francis- 1.Canterlevered treated floor joist from inside the house to the out side.2.Fabricated steel "L" brackets bolted to stuctural framing(not siding). This was passed buy an inspector and I can't believe it. Bob

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   SamD_ | Sep 12, 2001 09:26pm | #4

   *Not that it matters, but how high was this? Scary, scary...... Sam

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   Mike_Shultz | Sep 12, 2001 09:33pm | #5

   *Reminds me of a porch railing that a builder toenailed into the vinyl siding on a house down the street from mine. It held up until a prospective home buyer leaned against it and fell creating work for lawyers. (Sorry no pic.)

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   SamD_ | Sep 12, 2001 09:40pm | #6

   *Not that it matters, but how high was this? Scary, scary...... Sam

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   Pro-Dek | Sep 13, 2001 12:16am | #7

   *Only 20' off the ground but then the hillside has a 10/12 pitch,So if you survived the fall you would just roll about another 100' down the hill to the next house. Bob

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   piffin_ | Sep 13, 2001 03:26am | #8

   *Since this appears only about twelve inches deep, is it possible that it was only intended for show and not for access? Was there a door above that actually allowed egress onto the "deck"?

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   Pro-Dek | Sep 13, 2001 03:44am | #9

   *Piffin- the door above is a 6' slider.

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   Joseph_Fusco | Sep 13, 2001 03:44am | #10

   *Bob,

   My thinking was along the same line as piffin. Maybe it was just meant to be decorative?

   View Image "The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

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   piffin_ | Sep 13, 2001 04:07am | #11

   *Well, a slider Would open but then wherre would one go? Poor design.Reason I thought of it is I was asked to build a similar one as a decorative false balcony. I did it because it was under a window and not a door. For a situation like this I would have put in a screww top stop the door from openning - WWhoops, maybe not if it was a bedroom requiring egress.....BTW I likw what I've seen of your work prodeck

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   piffin_ | Sep 13, 2001 04:13am | #12

   *Speaking of unsafe.....

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   piffin_ | Sep 13, 2001 04:19am | #13

   *They are actually thinking of adding another four feet without doing any foundation work!Not by me!!!

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    Pro-Dek | Sep 13, 2001 05:14am | #14

    *Thanks, Piffin-what is that? a restaraunt? The tide and logs must raise havoc on those footings. Maybe a bulkhead would be in order.

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    Steve_Joyce | Sep 13, 2001 02:19pm | #15

    *PiffinThat looks like a typical New England shore line with a porch held up by tinker toys. I couldn't imagine having to do foundation work for that thing. To coordinate the tides with equipment + rocks galore....not I.I'm suprised some of our winter storms haven't taken that thing out yet.SJ

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    piffin_ | Sep 13, 2001 04:33pm | #16

    *I'mn equally surprised!I can do the work but not without a marine engineer specing it out first. You can see that someone used 'in-house' help to replace some older supports about ten - twenty years ago in the fact that the existing ones don't fall directly uinder the upper support poists to the roof.It is the restaurant for a private yacht club - main building on land and eating porch you see overhung. Therre is rot starting at the joints on this thing and they are thinking they can just scab onto it somehow without re-doing anything. Yes it is tidal zone so arranging concrete deliveries around tide and ferry schedules is tricky. Therre are other techniches for pinning to the ledge without concrete also.Prodek- didn't mean to hijack your thread, maybe someone else can jump in with unsafe ones.

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   Pro-Dek | Sep 13, 2001 04:33pm | #17

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   Went out on a deck bid tonight and couldn't believe this quality building technique. Bolt it to the house, toe nail a couple 4x4's into the siding, and hope no one actually goes out and stands on this thing.Bob