Had an upper level toilet over flow for half the night.. soaked down to the bathroom ceiling above. No real visible signs of damage.. but you can feel some soft spots at the taped seams.
Dehumidfyer has been running for 2 day. Plan on running it thru the week.
Seems like a no brainer to me… but what do I know?
I’d tear it out and replace it.. its not that much.. 2 sheets if that.
H.O. aka tight-wad. ” My deductibles 1000.00. So I dont want to put much money into this. Maybe I’ll just dry it out with the dehumdifyer… wont give that mold a chance to grow. It’ll be ok.. wont it? “
question: if there’s no visible signs of damage… and all he needs to do is slap some paint over the water stain… will that pesky mold still develop? still grow? I dont want to push, this guys got an itchy trigger finger.
He’s not going to bite unless I prove to him… the molds a coming old man!
goodluck
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Im assuming the mold will go dormant, if the moisture is dried out. But will the mold have a chance to grow if there's really only be a few days that the moisture was present.
You'd think with the paranoia of mold running wild... theres got to be a few college courses... mold 101 perhaps?
You'd think with the paranoia of mold running wild...
A lot of the concern is just that. It's the "new" asbestos.
In the absense of moisture mold will not grow. You did right with the dehumidifier.
That stain will be tough to get rid of. You will probably notice the the sheetrock has bowed or otherwise deformed as well. And, you are going to lose those joints sooner or later.
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You got that right.
'was listening to Dr. Dean Adell, M.D. (sp?) on the radio in the shop. As far as he's concerned, there's no such thing as "toxic mold". Although some people do have mold allegies. most of us don't, as mold spores are all around us, and always have been.
The $1000-a-day "expert witness" doctor that's testified in most of these lawsuits is apparently now in big legal trouble, as most all that he has testified to cannot be scientifically substantiated.
Im assuming the mold will go dormant
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sorry if i didnt make myself clear.
toilet did overflow. second floor toilet. The sheetrock in question is the first floor bathroom ceiling now.
The tightass homeowner in question is my dad. Went there today and tore the ceiling down while he was out. He make a stink... but knew it had to be done. Everything will be back to where it was by monday.
Thanks
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Don't ya know family are the worst customers?
I think i know all too well.
Brother is sitting on 400 S.F of hardwood flooring. Wont give it back (thought it was a gift) Wont install it (lazy) Wont pay for it ( he aint broke.)
Hey now you KNOW there won't be any mold.
IF its just a couple sheets then you did what i'd a done................do it right and don't worry about it
When in doubt, get a bigger hammer!
I agree with you. Gypsumboard does not contain the nutrients that mold feed on. The paper backing and joint tape, otoh, are comestible. But without further moisture inputs, what little mold got a start will lie dormant.http://costofwar.com/
Having had experience both as a home owner and contractor the answer is clearly questionable. Is the sheetrock soggy or did it get good and soggy? Have the sheetrock seams puckered? If all you have are stains you are probably okay to dry out and surface treat: paint or skim coat and paint. I've always understood that if exposure to water is minimal and less than 24 hours you are probably not going to have to replace the rock. If it was my home?
Let's not confuse the issue with facts!
There's no need to jump to a conclusion. Let it dry out really well, give it some time, paint it with Kilz, and see what happens. No need to do mold remediation unless you actually get mold.
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So as long as you tore it out, and the joists dry out, this would be the time to anticipate the same problem happening again. Wonderboard, Durock, Hardiboard attached with SS screws and then a skim coat and texture. Oh, yeah, I forgot, well maybe just use that flooring your brother has...keep the family together! Tyr
Wonderboard? Have you ever successfully did a ceiling with the techniche you described? Sounds to me like it'd be a ton of work to get that finished. And then how well would that finish stick to the CBU with all the moisture from the steam of the shower? Not saying it isn't possible, but just sounds a little wild to me.
I think I'd just rather fix the toilet.
When in doubt, get a bigger hammer!
Toilets have been known to overflow more than once. As long as everything is torn out, dried out, the fix should include a little anticipation. Kind of like you carrying a spare tire for your truck. Have I used cement board underlayment on the ceiling? All the time. Some time the home owner wants to tile up there but most go with skim coat, texture and paint. Good paint. Never had anything fail. If you are alone just prop one end and screw it down (actually up). A five foot board covers everything and I just blend in the 32" edge with the existing board. I use setting, not drying, compound. It is far more waterproof. Setting compound is the thing to use with mesh tape. A 24" knife moves the mud fast. Works for me. Tyr
Ok, sounds like it'd work ok, but....
Wonderboard is not waterproof, (unlike hardyboard) and water can pass through it. So if the toilet overflows, then the water passing through will probably ruin your mud job. But it would be worse with drywall....you could use greenboard but the water would be trapped up there, so your idea could be the best option.
Or put a waterproof membrane and drain under the tile in the upstairs bathroom.
When in doubt, get a bigger hammer!
I assumed a 6 mil barrier prior to the concrete board. I've done the membrane before but not in a bath. Setting compound will not dissolve when wet. Clean up does NOT mean cleaning in the homeowners DWV system unless you want to rooto root too.
My finish will NOT be ruined by water. That's why I use it (besides it saves time).
Try it sometime on some scrap board around the shop. :) Tyr
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