In the kitcern, at the ceiling above the cabinet, they a ? spaceway. I alway called them soffitt but that not right. Its the area of drywall that can hide plumbing, electrical. ans how do you frame them.
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Around here everyone call's them soffits.
I rip a 2x4 in half and a piece of OSB or 1/2" ply to the desired depth,
attach one of the rip's of 2x4 to the ceiling/floor joist's above, and the other rip to the bottom of the piece of ply. Make sure everything is running level when attaching the plywood face to the piece that is nailed to the joists... then add framing from the face back to the wall.
I've always called them bulkheads. What CAG said for framing.
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
I would call it a soffit
chase, bulkhead, or soffit.
Asa carp I'd always heard chase or soffit, but my CAD program calls them bulkhead, which confused the snot out of me for a while, because here, we call the exterior basement entrance a bulkhead
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exterior basement entrance a bulkhead
We call that a bulkhead also, but it is more commonly refered to as a Billco(after the door maker). Most houses around here have a walk out man door in the basement.
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Edited 11/27/2005 11:33 pm ET by dustinf
I have always heard it called a furdown.
Ditto the Furrdown. Here a soffit is the underside of the raftertails.
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Hadn't heard that it was out yet.
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Once again Canada does it different. At school it was referred to as a valance.
valence- from another Canuck. Sometimes called "bulkhead" up here also.
Bulkhead would work in a general sense, but in this specific location over cabinets, valance is the term.
'Soffit' is strictly for horizontal surfaces in my experience.Lignum est bonum.
That would be a misapplication of the hisotic use of the word. A valence is intended to capture the head of the draperies over windows and doors
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I use the term valance for the filler that spans between to wall cabinets. Usually use them above the kitchen sink, where there is no wall cabinet. I'll look for a picture.
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
Found one. Not a very good view, but it's the filler strip running horizontally above the sink. I don't know if you are dial up or not, but it's pretty big file size.
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That's because there is usually a window above the sink. That gives a logical evolution to the term
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http://members.tripod.com/joeycattone/Joey%20kitchen%20valence%20big%20view.JPGI did a google image search - that'll expand your horizons - and found this picture which gives some logic to applying the term valence from it's original architectural definition. See how the cabinets hang like curtains from the "valence"?
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Strangely enough, my hist arch dictionary spelled it val E nce as I did, but wheni looked in the regular fat book of words, and learned to spell it right - val A nce - I was able to find plenty of window valances shown, even a special kind made out of Holly
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this is what Im talking about. 2+3=7
That's a drop Brownbagg. If it contains any mechanicals, it's a chase.
We build drops around our ductwork.
blue
In Texas and Tennessee we called them furr downs or furrdowns.
Hay...kin ewe brang at thar sealin furrther dauwn.
I have also heard the frilly ruffle thing that covers the sides of a box spring referred to as a valance.Lignum est bonum.
We call them "drops", as in: drop the ceiling.
According to dictionary.com:
soffit
n : the underside of a part of a building (such as an arch or overhang or beam etc.).
I've only built one kictchen "drop" in the last five years. We also interchange the term "soffit" when talking about those "drops".
If the space is left open, it could be used as a chase too. But the fact that it is a chase is secondary to it's real purpose.
I've built "drops" perhaps fifty different ways! I always decide how to do it based on my ceiling structure and available materials. In my apprentice days, the oldtimers used to build all drops out of 2x12! They would bang them together on the ground and then we'd hoist them heavy things up! It was a freakin' nightmare, especially if we had to fit them between two walls! That was one of the first things I changed when I took over as foreman.
blue
We call that area a "chase"
All these names for the same feature show a weakness in consistent training in the building field!!! Man, if doctors called a spleen 10 different things, I'd want know just what he was going to remove when he says "it's gotta come out!". I've noticed this when talking to carpenters in western Canada where quite a few house terms are named differently there.
Only other term I've ever heard was "furr down" (far too often "spell checked" into firred, as if the species mattered <g>).
The kitchen designers use soffit & furrdown about interchangably (and occasionally pointing at two different walls built exactly the same way <g>).
Just to throw another term in the mix - we call that a "kitchen soffit" --- at least it doesn't get confused with the underside of the rafter tails.
Bulkhead = Bilco door or site built door of the same general design.
Valance = horizontal filler, straight or curved, which fills the topmost space between 2 cabinets, generally over the kitchen sink. Also, some curtain detail my wife knows about.
Jim
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In Texas they have always been refered as furdowns.
See pics below: With furdowns/ without furdowns LOL!!!!!!
MK