So I really want to put in some type of dust collection ducting for my WS that will hook up to my 14 gal shopvac (2 1/2″ port). What is the best ducting material to use, I want to keep to a fairly small budget. PVC I hear creates static elec. but I could always wind copper wire around it. if I wrap wire around it can I connect the wire to any of the copper water pipes running around my shop ceiling?
I’m just sayin’
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use snaplock pipe...
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ok, now what is snaplock pipe?
I'm just sayin'
single wall metal pipe used for venting...
http://www.precisioninstallationproducts.net/p-3781-10-x-60-snaplock-vent-pipe-30-guage.aspx
here 30ga is way to light and flimsy...
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that's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Depends on how big the shop is. And he doesn't need all of that stuff.
Dinosaur
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I think with a 2-1/2" vac, you're pretty much limited to using PVC or ABS since you don't really have enough air volume to go with a 4" or 6" duct. The static charge on the plastic is only an issue if you touch it, and that can be reduced by providing a ground path as you suggest.
That said, any ducting will reduce your vac's efficiency. You may be better off just pluggin it in to each tool as you use it to keep the run as short as possible.
Mike Hennessy
Pittsburgh, PA
3" snaplok???
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"3" snaplok???"
I was thinking the smallest was 4", but I see they do make 3".
I still think putting in a duct system would render that shopvac all but useless tho'.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
with the snaplok he's got something that's 100% reusable and easy to reconfigure...
he's also making do it seems..
the days of a shop vac as dust collection are long gone thank goodness...
way too many negatives even if he uses a solids/heavies seperation tank...
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and tape is all he needs to hold it together....
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I was gonna say he'd still need blast gates and I doubt you can even get 3" blast gates, but after doing a search, I find I would have put my foot in my mouth again! Saw some for $8 each. Who knew?
I still think moving the vac to each machine is the better plan. Heck, I have a real DC and that's what I do since I rarely use more than one machine at a time. I just plug the hose into the collector at whatever machine I'm using.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
make his own blast gates.. scrap... bunch less than 8$$
go cyclone...
http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/hi_tools/article/0,,DIY_13936_3449727,00.html
http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/shows_dit/episode/0,,diy_14298_33653,00.html
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t9315.html
http://www.diylife.com/2007/10/31/build-the-ultimate-dust-collection-system-with-a-cyclone-seperat/
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In my teenage shop way back when, I used carpet tubes. Ya know the 3" diam. cardboard? Free from a carpet store.
That and a few Alpo cans and flexible dryer vent hose, and I was good to go. I made the blast gates out of masonite sliders in a plywood holders..kindof a sammich. I made to connection collars out of the dog food cans and hot melt glue.
I was pretty proud of it. I had the sears (LOUD) vac going into a 55 gal. Fiber drum/cyclone with pvc ells. The vac would collapse teh drum if I had all the gates closed, so I made a stack of 3 1x1" and a screw in the center, opened up like wheel spokes, kept the drum in shape when using just one gate.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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LOL! I'm afraid to ask what you've upgraded to -- old copper downspouts or perhaps salvaged conduit? ;-)
Hmm. Now that I think on it . . . .
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Galvanized DS, salvaged from a job..LOL
Right now, the shop is temp and (has been for 4 years) I am just running 4'' DC hose, and neck down to 2" for someplaces. I only have 2 4" lines on the Y. Chinese DC , two bagger.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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"Chinese DC , two bagger."
And based on some of your prior posts, both them bags are filled to the top with PVC "snow". ;-)
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Not lately , luckily.
I did make a huge mess out front this AM , planning a bunch of cypress..took the planer outside, cuz of the lengths I had..shop too small..arrghh.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Tell him you don't want lung disease or cancer (wood dust has been identified as a carcinogen) by the age of 20. That should perk his ears up.
Mebbe I've been misled, but as I understand, it's IN the pipe, not around it.
what?
I'm just sayin'
Your copper ground wire. As I understand, it's supposed to be inside the PVC tube for static control.
http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/ducting.cfm#StaticElectricity (about 80% down the article in the section entitled, "Static Electricity."
And read this too.
http://home.comcast.net/~rodec/woodworking/articles/DC_myths.html#inside
Get your parents to buy you a dust collector or wish one for christmas. Tell them it is for the protections of your health. Or save your pennies. In the meantime I'd save the money and simply hook the vac to each machine as you use it. Why invest in something now you probably won't be happy with in a year.
HA, my dad laughed at me when I asked for my current vac, anyways I don't even have the room
I'm just sayin'