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What is this tool?

greenarch | Posted in Tools for Home Building on September 24, 2004 01:12am

I ran across this tool in an art book. I think it’s a souped up miter box for frames. Has anyone seen anything like this before?

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  1. User avater
    jonblakemore | Sep 24, 2004 01:52am | #1

    Looks like a miter trimmer. Lion makes the most popular one.

     

    Jon Blakemore

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      Sphere | Sep 24, 2004 01:57am | #2

      no way, I have one of those...thats a framers miter saw..just what he thought. 

      Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

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        jonblakemore | Sep 24, 2004 04:31am | #6

        How does that differ from the Lion?

        I've always wanted to use a trimmer but have never seen one. What is the effort needed to trim a thin slice off of 2" Oak frame stock? 

        Jon Blakemore

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          IMERC | Sep 24, 2004 05:13am | #7

          Near as I can tell they're about the same...

          It's more like shave rather than trim...

          Use it to true up the ends...

          Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

          WOW!!!   What a Ride!

        2. DaveRicheson | Sep 24, 2004 05:35am | #8

          They can shave a slice off so thin that you think it was done with a plane.

          Like sphere, I have the Lion trimmer. It is great for applied decorative molding. I also custom picture framing,and use it for thin, narrow frame moldings, that don't sit well on my miter slide for the table saw.

          I first used on many years ago when working in a custom cabinet shop. Remember those french provencial corners that use to be applied to cabinet doors and drawer fronts? We bought the curved corners that were already miter at 45 degrees, and cut the straight molding to  match the corners with an old Lion miter trimmer. A little more combersom than a low angle block plane for trim work, but you can really tune in a miter cut with one.

          Tool Crib has them.

          Dave

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          Sphere | Sep 24, 2004 02:34pm | #12

          the method of slicing is the only similarity..the lion is real portable, and a little less refined. 

          Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

  2. MStehelin | Sep 24, 2004 02:16am | #3

    We own one. It is a mitre cutter for wooden frames. It is powered by stepping on the pedal.It uses big blades and not a saw. You cut in small "bites". Then move it forward and cut move cut move cut until though.

  3. maverick | Sep 24, 2004 04:16am | #4

    It a boat anchor. I have one. I've had it for ten years and never used it. Would be a great tool for a framing shop. Any offers considered.

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      jonblakemore | Sep 24, 2004 04:28am | #5

      http://www.irfanview.com 

      Jon Blakemore

      1. rez | Sep 24, 2004 05:39am | #9

        good lord man, those were monsters to download.

         

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          jonblakemore | Sep 25, 2004 12:29am | #13

          If you thought mine were big try these:

          http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=47866.5 

          Jon Blakemore

          1. rez | Sep 25, 2004 08:04am | #14

            Pardon me for the misconception.

            Those were the biggies I was speaking of. :) 

  4. Phat | Sep 24, 2004 07:32am | #10

    See one, hell I used one for more than a year working as custom picture framer. It’s quite more advanced than the Lion Trimmer.

     

    We always referred to it as the “Chomper”.

     

    The blades are set at 90 degrees to each other which puts them 45 degrees to the fence. The blades are brought in to the moulding by the foot petal, after each bite, you slide the knob that you see below and to the right of the bed towards you – that moves the blade assembly further into the moulding for the next bite.

     

    The bed is engraved with ¼ inch increments, so you don’t have to run a tape on the moulding itself. And to cut other than a 45, the short porthion of the fence swings to other angles – also engraved. Damn nice, yet single purpose tool.

     

    And the blades are wicked sharp!

     

    P.S. It's nothing like the boat anchor... it's what the Lion Trimer want's to be when it grows up

    Never underestimate your ability to overestimate your ability



    Edited 9/24/2004 12:35 am ET by Spudwise

  5. Clay | Sep 24, 2004 08:25am | #11

    It is, as other posters have deduced, a professional model miter chopper.  These are marketed to professional framing shops.  Some of my customers who own them tell me that they do a real nice job on the smaller moldings.  They are of decreasing effectiveness as molding sizes increase.  So for larger heavier moldings saws become more effective.  The choppers will create a very high quality cut though on moldings in their effective range.  They are set up to work quickly and efficiently.  One drawback is that they require a very high degree of sharpness in the blade system and are very expensive to resharpen.  They also are not an easy item to resharpen to top quality standards and so there are not lots of shops that can do the work acceptably.

  6. rlmcruiser | Sep 25, 2004 05:21pm | #15

    That machine is very similar to the one we use in the cabinet shop I work in.

    http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/beaded_face_frames/morso_nf.htm

    We use it to create miters in beaded face frame cabinetry and to cut what my boss calls "French Miters".

    Being French, I think my boss just loves the guillotine effect.....but seriously, that machine can shave hair thicknesses off any wood we have used and will take your finger too if your not careful.

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      EricPaulson | Sep 25, 2004 08:37pm | #16

      5 G's!!

      I had a shop (friend) build some Cherry abs fo me with beaded rails.........no wonder he applied them! He has the capability to bead the rails, I guess without the Hoffman, you ain't mitreing them though.

      Is their another way? Just curious.

      EricEvery once in a while, something goes right!

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        Sphere | Sep 26, 2004 03:40am | #17

        sure, use the Lion..I ruff cut with a pull saw, slice away w/ the slider, and presto!

        Mine is actually a copy from AMT..taiwanese..but so what? it works like a dream, a bear to sharpen tho.  I just hone the back side of the knives, just kiss the bevel real lightly to remove the little fuzz burr. Diamond is a MANS best friend...trust me. 

        Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

        Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

        1. rez | Oct 19, 2004 08:29am | #18

          What is this thing? 

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            SamT | Oct 19, 2004 09:07am | #19

            A lawn aereator for Bonzai pots.

            I wanna milkbone.

            SamT

            Change The Equation!

            47807.1 

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            jonblakemore | Oct 19, 2004 09:13am | #20

            Wallpaper removal tool. 

            Jon Blakemore

          3. rez | Oct 19, 2004 09:28am | #21

            Could be an old one I suppose, but all the spikes are flat with rounded edges. No point to them at all. Could run it on my scalp. 

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            IMERC | Oct 19, 2004 05:20pm | #23

            They use to be sharp...

            Bakers use them for something...

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          5. User avater
            Sphere | Oct 19, 2004 05:44pm | #24

            makes the little holes in saltines. 

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

          6. User avater
            IMERC | Oct 19, 2004 05:48pm | #25

            deep penetrating back rub...

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          7. User avater
            Sphere | Oct 19, 2004 05:51pm | #26

            non electric vibrator? OUCH 

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

          8. User avater
            IMERC | Oct 19, 2004 05:55pm | #27

            Hole punch for donut seeds... (Cheerios)

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          9. rez | Oct 19, 2004 05:59pm | #28

            Ohhhh, that could be.

            Pie crusts maybe? 

          10. User avater
            IMERC | Oct 19, 2004 06:03pm | #30

            I remember seeing something that looked like that in a baker's shop...

            Thehere were several sizes....

            No idea what they did with them...

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          11. User avater
            PaulBinCT | Oct 19, 2004 03:34pm | #22

            Meat tenderizer

          12. JohnT8 | Oct 19, 2004 06:01pm | #29

            Looks kinda like the docker used on pizza dough.  Spread the dough out and put it on a pan and then dock it with that tool.  Keeps the crust from bubbling up in the oven.  I think they are used in other dough applications as well.  See attached pic.jt8

          13. User avater
            IMERC | Oct 19, 2004 06:04pm | #31

            Thanks....

            I'll take those milk bones rez....

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          14. rez | Oct 19, 2004 06:15pm | #32

            You'll have to split 'em with JohnT8. 60/40 since he posted a pic. 

          15. JohnT8 | Oct 21, 2004 04:41pm | #34

            Now are we talking about REAL name brand Milk Bones, or just those generic ones that come in a 5lbs bag?  ;)

             jt8

          16. User avater
            IMERC | Oct 21, 2004 04:42pm | #35

            not even that good.....

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          17. User avater
            RichBeckman | Oct 23, 2004 04:48am | #36

            That's what I get for being late to a thread. I knew what that was immediately!!

            I docked a LOT of pizza doughs in the early eighties!!!

            Rich Beckman

            Another day, another tool.

          18. VaTom | Oct 23, 2004 05:10am | #37

            You snooze, you lose.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

          19. JohnT8 | Oct 23, 2004 07:40am | #38

            Mid to Late '80s.  Made well over 100k of the little bastards.

            jt8

          20. rez | Nov 16, 2004 02:15am | #39

            A Stanley No.82 tool.

            What function was this scraper used for? 

          21. UncleDunc | Nov 16, 2004 03:44am | #40

            Scraping hardwood floors. That's how they smoothed them before God invented power sanders.

            Edited 11/15/2004 7:45 pm ET by Uncle Dunc

          22. rez | Nov 16, 2004 04:30am | #41

            Is that right?

            Those poor souls.

            They would push it as in a standard plane? 

          23. UncleDunc | Nov 16, 2004 04:57am | #42

            I believe it was pulled. I don't think you could push it at that angle without tearing up the floor.

          24. gordsco | Nov 21, 2004 05:39am | #47

            View Image

             

            Stanley No. 82: Cabinet Scraper. Length: 13.50 Inches.

          25. User avater
            SamT | Nov 26, 2004 08:42pm | #49

            Gordsco,

            The picture you copied to your post doesn't show in my browser.

            Here's my attempt to show it

            View Image

            I changed the source to read

            <IMG height="367" src="http://www.yesterdaystools.com/Stanley82.jpg" width="450">

            instead of

            <IMG height="367" src="http://www.yesterdaystools.com/Stanley82.jpg" width="450" />

            SamT

          26. gordsco | Nov 26, 2004 10:43pm | #50

            I should have posted a copy

            Thanks Sam

            Did I won?

          27. User avater
            SamT | Nov 27, 2004 03:42am | #51

            Gordsco,

            Did you win? Nope, I lost.

            In the threaded post above, mine doesn't show either?!?!?

            It displayed just fine in in the "Compose Message" window.

            Must be Prospero again.

            Test follows; Copy a thumbnail from a google page into a post.

            View Image

            Ok, as I am typing this I see an image above, now I'll post it and see what happens.

            Edit: Hmmn, that seems OK, and it has the XML codeing (" />")at the end, too. maybe the source of your image has something to do with it?

            SamT

            Edited 11/26/2004 7:46 pm ET by SamT

          28. rez | Nov 27, 2004 06:23am | #52

            No show here either.

            But the

            'Stanley No. 82: Cabinet Scraper. Length: 13.50 Inches.'

            copied out ok.    

              

          29. User avater
            SamT | Nov 27, 2004 10:44am | #53

            The picture is no longer available from the source.

            SamT

          30. gordsco | Nov 27, 2004 05:48pm | #54

            Some I can post, others not.

            Some can view, others not.

            I'm okay with that.

            I was just saying to rez, that along with the paste and post I should have attached the link.

          31. zendo | Nov 27, 2004 06:38pm | #55

            A cabinet scraper takes off a thin shaving, gets rid of tool marks.  pre sand paper even.  Looks like that one would be like a common day shavehook.

            Oh and by the way, those poor souls that use them are over in the Knots discussion groups. lol

          32. DougU | Nov 28, 2004 03:46am | #56

            Hey, some of us "poor souls" that are over here use them to.

            Doug

          33. zendo | Nov 28, 2004 04:16am | #57

             Sorry, I didnt mean any disrespect, you have to read 40-43.

            Im a finish carpenter and painter and I use them.

          34. DougU | Nov 28, 2004 04:34am | #58

            I didnt take it as a dis. just screwing with ya! :)

          35. User avater
            IMERC | Nov 28, 2004 06:50am | #59

            what ever you say

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          36. DougU | Nov 28, 2004 06:16pm | #60

            What???

            You learning to post from the school of rez?

          37. rez | Nov 28, 2004 08:11pm | #61

            heh heh

            be a what 

          38. fingers | Oct 20, 2004 01:34am | #33

            It's a rolling pin for the top layer of dough for pies, so that you don't have to poke holes in it with a fork for the steam to excape.  Saves lots of time.

          39. DThompson | Nov 16, 2004 04:59am | #43

            It is a very old paint roller and sleeve floating in a sea of alga, what those pointy things are I do not know. Any guesses?

          40. brownbagg | Nov 16, 2004 06:59am | #44

            its for popping air bubble when dealing with epoxy paints.

          41. DThompson | Nov 21, 2004 02:19am | #45

            Have you had experience with air bubbles in epoxy paints? I am serious I had a disaster with a two part "Tuff Flex" product. What do you know?

          42. brownbagg | Nov 21, 2004 04:24am | #46

            I tried everything included the air popper in the picture. I ended up using a small nap roller, as small as you can get. Then burn the hairs with a propane torch. only roll one way and put alot of pressure on the roller. the roller I used did not have the cardbord tube and the nap was so small it look like it was painted on.

          43. User avater
            Fonzie | Nov 26, 2004 07:20pm | #48

            We had bubbles with West Systems epoxy installing a Teak Deck in a boat hatch we set out in the sun.  The problem was the rising temp while setting.

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