Don’t like hand sanding. The orbital works great for most things, but am I missing something when it comes to sanding little stuff? Is there a profile sander that really works good?
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not the porter cable.
The PC is waaaayyyy better than the Crapsman I burned out.
I recommend steel wool, the detail sanders just do not have any power....that's not a mistake, it's rustic
Nor the Ryobie or B&D...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
Thanks. I wondered why so many of them were for sale (almost new at that).
fein multimaster
only one worth owning
I meant to ask about the fein in my last post.
I was gonna say the fien cuz its alot more versitle.
Darkworksite4:
El americano pasado hacia fuera ase la bandera
I have the P-C, my brother has the Fein. Although I don't use it all that much, I'm happy with the P-C, and it comes with many of the contours you'll be paying extra for with the Fein (I don't think the Fein comes with many/any of these - I might be wrong). I think the Fein is a better-built tool, though, and my brother thinks it sands faster (more pad motion) than the P-C. If you'll be using it a lot, it's probably best to spend the money and go with the Fein.
it's right easy to make custom profile pads for the fein..
INGREDIENTS
double stick carpet tape (or transfertape that I use)
1 1/2 blue or pink foam board
pattern of moulding
selfstick sandy paper..
make a reverse profile or close..by whittling, rasping sanding the foam block..mostly hollows and rounds are best..double stick tape it to the sanding pad triangle..stick om the peel an stick paper..and have at it.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
Why not make an exact image with some saran wrap and bondo?
I' have made hand sanding blocks like that once..didn't seem worth it. The Fein sander has an orbit, any real detail like a quirked bead would not work with an exact reversi sanding caul.
I too avoid sanding like the plague..got to have somethin better to do..lol
but, it has to be done.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
When you make up a block for the fein, how do you orient it? Since the movement on the fein is oscillating, sort of back and forth..........have you tried turning the triangle point to the left or right? When using the pad on something flat that dies into a vertical, I'll use the sander sideways...... seems to limit those swirles by putting the body of the tool perpendicular to the grain and moving it left and right. Beats the #### outta me............................Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
thats the beauty and the beast together..the orbits are so small that orienting anything is pointless..it's how ya move the block/triangle to the grain that counts.
And it also means that tight patterns ( like crown moulding 'little cove' area ,not the large ogee) can't really benefit from the fein, only straightline sanding works or ya lose the crispness of the transitions.
For the large Ogee's and deep coves..the slight orbit speeds up the process of block sanding the knife marks out
I am only using crown moulding as a discussion piece, other mouldings have thier problems too.
As much as I love the thing, it's not always the first sander or method I use..but really shines in the right applications.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
Bill I made 6 of these windows(see attachment) and I used that method so that I could get the bulk of the sanding done. It works for something like the windows but if you do it on a profiled handrail it doesn't seem to work as well.
the only good thing I found with the PC is the profiles it came with, I bought a case of them a few years back off a clearence rack in lowes. It was a replacement pack that came with all the profiles the sander came with, and they came in a little plastic case.
those come in handy, the sander just vibrated to much and didnt seem to do much work, seemed faster to do it by hand.
so if you can find the replacement profile kit, thats worth it.
just my opinion
Fonz
If you dont like hand sanding than get used to the job looking half-assed!
There is no profile sander that will do the job as good as hand sanding it.
None of us like to sand but thats part of the job, just as well do it right.
Doug
Doug@es,
Just because I consciously acknowledge I don't like hand sanding doesn't mean I don't do it! (You know what assuming does)
I think it's good to always be looking for a better way and be open to try it (in the right situation of course), a better tool for the job, advice, etc.
I know a old painter for instance that would never switch over to a roller. He was good too--painted all through the depression. He painted interior walls and ceilings with a brush.
I see plumbers that won't switch from that crappy plumbers putty, (that looks like dirt if not something more fundamental in about 5 years), to clear silicone. The answer seems to circle around "the way we've always done it".
So, yes I am looking for a tool to sand details. But I have learned that all tools don't do what they're cracked up to do.
Thanks for the quality reminder though. I agree the bottom line is still get the job done right, even if there are unpleasant things involved.
Fonzie
Fonzie
Wasn't suggesting that you were doing the job half-azzed, just that I have yet to see a profile sander do what it supposed to do.
I to can think of a lot of things that I would rather be doing than sanding, but unfortunately it has to be done. In the shop that I work in we have a guy that all he does is sand for the work that we create. God bless him cause I couldn't do that all day. I never use him, I do my own, that way I know its done the way I want.
I do as a lot of others, I will fabricate some sort of "profile sander" to take off the majority of the wood but it still comes down to the dreaded hand sanding.
Doug