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Would this bug you?

davidmeiland | Posted in General Discussion on August 4, 2006 07:46am

We’re trying to choose some doors for our shop. There’s an opening for a single 3/0 x 7/0 door, and another for a pair of 3/6 x 7/0. The openings are in the same wall separated by about 6 feet. DW’s choice of doors are shown in the attached pic… the 8-lite 1-panel door would be the single, the 10-lites would be the pair.

My concern is that the mis-alignment of the lite heights will be an issue. I suggested a 1-lite 1-panel door for the single, but we already have a couple of those 8-lites on the house, and matching makes some sense to me. It is possible to order the 10-lite doors with wider bottom rails so as to push the lites into alignment, but it would cost extra dollars, of course. DW is not concerned about this alignment and correctly points out that sometimes I obsess over things that do not matter.

What say you?

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  1. wrudiger | Aug 04, 2006 07:49am | #1

    Gotta side with you on this one.  It's just wrong!

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    BruceT999 | Aug 04, 2006 08:15am | #2

    Two considerations would decide the issue for me:

    1. If I were to live there for very long, a couple of hundred dollars to make 10-lites line up with 8-lites would amount to just a few cents for every time I would come home and not be annoyed at seeing glass that was mis-aligned.
    2. If I weren't going to keep the place for long, I would not want to install something that looks out of place and would therefor hurt the chances of a quick sale or of getting a better price by eliminating those prospective buyers who, like you, would find the misalignment disconcerting.

    DW should go along with you on this one because you have probably given in on some other issues.

    If it were my place and if money were a big consideration, I'd just go with three 8-lite doors. Two extra lites won't gain such a lot of light in the room anyway.

    BruceT

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    user-14544 | Aug 04, 2006 08:34am | #3

    yes.

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  4. JMadson | Aug 04, 2006 08:37am | #4

    What kind of "shop" is this?

    Regardless, I would lean towards agreeing with you on this. I like the doors with the bottom panel. If this is a busy shop, you may prevent some broken glass from an errant foot someday. I regularily push doors all the open with a foot if my hands are full.

    How hard would it be to make the opening for the pair of 3/6 doors just an opening for a pair of 3/0 doors?

    “The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.” – Albert Einstein
  5. DanT | Aug 04, 2006 12:14pm | #5

    I'm impressed you are selecting doors for you shop.  We always go in the attic and see what is left from something else.  DanT

  6. DonCanDo | Aug 04, 2006 12:37pm | #6

    DW is not concerned about this alignment and correctly points out that sometimes I obsess over things that do not matter.

    If it matters to you, it matters.  I could make a list of things thought I should overlook because I thought I was being obsessive but that still bother me whenever I see them and now wish that that I had appeased my "obsessiveness".

    The fact that you posted this question leads me to believe that, like me, you may never get over it.  So, do it right.

    Unless of course the doors, although only separated by 6 feet, can't be seen at the same time without turning your head.  If that's the case, but it seems unlikely, then you probably will get over it.

    -Don

  7. DaveRicheson | Aug 04, 2006 12:58pm | #7

    Pay the $$, makem line up.

    If'n you don't, six months down the road she'll say "you were right! I don't like the misalignment either."

     

    Dave

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      trout | Aug 05, 2006 04:47am | #19

      Pay the $$, makem line up.

      Well said.

  8. peteshlagor | Aug 04, 2006 04:01pm | #8

    Dave,

    In my basement shop, I used a pair of interior 3/0 x 7/0 single lite (the top half) wire glass, set in an exterior frame (meaning it's weatherstripped) to keep IN any dust. 

    I'd post a pic, but the 'puter taking the CF chip is in the shop til Saturday.

     

    Just found this which shows the doors of which I speak:

    http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=71249.5

    Click on the photo on the right

     

     



    Edited 8/4/2006 12:42 pm ET by peteshlagor

  9. woodguy99 | Aug 04, 2006 04:23pm | #9

    David, I would say that what is more wrong than the lites not matching up is having mis-matched doors so close to each other.  If the single door was a 9-lite or the double doors were solid, the alignment wouldn't matter.

    I would make all the doors the same.

     

    Mike Maines

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    McDesign | Aug 04, 2006 06:58pm | #10

    You're right - the misalignment looks bad.  Fix it somehow, or remove the mullions from one of them at least.

    Forrest

  11. joeh | Aug 04, 2006 07:03pm | #11

    Not only would it bug me today, it would bug me every time I looked at it until I changed it or moved.

    Joe H

  12. cynwyd | Aug 04, 2006 07:30pm | #12

    Without even addressing the misalignment the doors look wrong because the panes have the long side of the rectangle on the bottom, not the side. Horizontal panes seem somehow wrong.

    I know that wasn't your question but that would bother me more than the misalignment.

    I think it has to do with  things wanting to pass for classical but they miss an essential element. Like when a house has shutters that if they could both close would cover about half the window.

    1. johnharkins | Aug 04, 2006 11:08pm | #13

      I'd go more the way of cynwyd
      usually as a rule of thumb go 3 lites across for a door larger than 2 - 8 ( three lites across for 2 - 8 better too
      you do that & they'll each be so fine in their own right the muntin elevation wouldn't affect me
      and like someone said panels on the pair of doors would handle more closing w/ your foot

  13. Jer | Aug 05, 2006 12:04am | #14

    It would bug me.  Line 'em up.

  14. kate | Aug 05, 2006 12:34am | #15

    Separated by that many ft., listen to DW!

  15. JohnSprung | Aug 05, 2006 01:45am | #16

    Get the 8 lite that matches the rest of the house for the single.  Slap up a temporary pair of cheap solid cores for the double, that will later become bench tops.  When you get the time, make your own matching pair of 8 lites, and harvest your new bench tops. 

     

     

    -- J.S.

     

  16. migraine | Aug 05, 2006 04:01am | #17

    HER house... YOUR shop...

    'nuf said?

  17. hvtrimguy | Aug 05, 2006 04:44am | #18

    It would bug me too. I wouldn't be surprised to see it show up and get installed on half the trim jobs I do however. I always seem to be in the minority about details like these. Are these simpson doors? If so I'm surprised. Look at some other manufacturer's. Marvin I'm sure would be concerned about alignment.

  18. dgbldr | Aug 05, 2006 05:15am | #20

    Tell DW the extra cost won't be so bad because you're only marking it up 10%  :)

    DG/Builder

     

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