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Any web site builders?

Sphere | Posted in Help/Work Wanted on October 22, 2006 04:35am

I have been putting it off, due to my inherent ineptitude with this type of construction.

Anyone who has a proven track record and satisfied referals I can check, may contact me at  [email protected]

Just tell me how much it is gonna cost for what you can provide.

I will be happy to provide the content as well as I am able, but other than that, I can only throw $ at you.

Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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  1. Lansdown | Oct 22, 2006 04:39pm | #1

    Jerrald Hayes did Andy C's recent site, and rumor has it that Luka does that sort of thing too.

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      Sphere | Oct 22, 2006 04:44pm | #2

      I emailed Luka, but it is still dark thirty over there, and he has first dibs, but I am open to other prospects.

      I just wasted a huge amount of time, trying to upload here, and am pizzed off..so I'll just make a link to my site when I get one up, I think. I hope. Therefore I am.

      Thanks T.

      Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

      1. Lansdown | Oct 22, 2006 04:48pm | #3

        Do check out Andy's though, it is pretty good.

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          Sphere | Oct 22, 2006 04:53pm | #4

          Oh I did, it is fine!

          I love the tipi shot and the way he presents himself, I guess I wanna do the same sorta thing.

          I don't know if Jerrald does this sorta thing for hire?

          Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

          1. Lansdown | Oct 22, 2006 04:57pm | #5

            For the right price, everything is for sale LOL.

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            Sphere | Oct 22, 2006 05:02pm | #6

            Man, I just got a email from a phisher. Said they got my request from "Threads", they want 100.oo a page and 35-65 an hour. geeze.

            I'd rather hire Jeff, or Jerrald..keep it in the fambly type thing ya know?

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

          3. Lansdown | Oct 22, 2006 05:13pm | #7

            Good to know capitalism is alive and well this sunday morning.

          4. andybuildz | Oct 22, 2006 05:15pm | #8

            I know Jerrald's work and what it's like working with him so all I can say is two thumbs way up and yeh, he is for hire. He has an interesting pay schedule but I'll let him tell you about it...
            I just wouldn't wanna get between you and Luka is all.
            See what happens when you connect with people at these fests : )
            Good luck!Creation arises, is sustained for awhile, and then things change. That’s the dance.

            http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

                                               

             

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            Sphere | Oct 22, 2006 05:17pm | #9

            Calling you as we speak ok?

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

          6. Lansdown | Oct 22, 2006 05:18pm | #10

            He won't be able to answer, his computer is plugged into the telephone line :-)

          7. andybuildz | Oct 22, 2006 06:07pm | #11

            He won't be able to answer, his computer is plugged into the telephone line :-) <<<No it ain't...separate lines...whatzitlooklike...I'm in the 20th Century here or sumpin'...lol.
            Plus, I just got off the phone with Duane just as I hit "post" to him the phone rang with him on the other end. These new fangled tin cans with the cords tween' em are simply amazin'!!Creation arises, is sustained for awhile, and then things change. That’s the dance.

            http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

                                               

             

          8. Lansdown | Oct 22, 2006 06:11pm | #12

            LOL. I knew that, just pulling your chain.

          9. andybuildz | Oct 22, 2006 06:16pm | #13

            LOL. I knew that, just pulling your chain.<<<EwwwwwwCreation arises, is sustained for awhile, and then things change. That’s the dance.

            http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

                                               

             

          10. PatchogPhil | Oct 22, 2006 06:29pm | #14

            they want 100.oo a page and 35-65 an hour. geeze.

            ...... and what does your company charge for your fine homebuilding expertise?

             

            Considering that a simple website of 4 pages can be generated in as little as an hour or take as long as a week,  the "it depends" price does fall into that price quote.  Same thing as home building and/or renovations.

             

             

             

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            Sphere | Oct 22, 2006 06:51pm | #15

            Well, that is not the issue. The issue is that I posted HERE and was contacted by a co that "found" me on THREADS. Therefore, I am suspect of the pursuer, being as they can't even discern where they obtained my email addy.

            I'll not challange a price for something that I am either unwilling or unable to do myself, but the intent and or tactics of soliciting my patronage, when questionable is a point to be pondered.

            I am leaning on the side of educating myself and doing my own site, so that the control of modifications is solely upon myself, and not being connected with an entity that will continue to feed off of me.

            As to your question of what is my homebuilding expertise cost?

            Call me when you have a roof leak...I'll be happy to discuss your options of how bad you want it fixed on YOUR terms, and price accordingly. (G)

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

          12. hmj | Oct 22, 2006 06:59pm | #16

            Look into Yahoo's sitebuilder. I am using even though I used to be a web developer for the fed gubment, a while back. Used to know the tags and structure, but have been out of it for while. The Yahoo tool gives some simple templates that can be customized. Only $11 a month to host...

          13. PatchogPhil | Oct 22, 2006 07:09pm | #17

            I guess I misinterpretated what you wrote,  and I appologize.  I mistakenly thought you were taking issue with the prices.  My"question" about your charges ...  I really wasn't looking for a number,  just trying to make a point about pricing for expertise.

            As said on the older original Saturday Night Live (Gilda Radner?)...  "Never Mind".

            *************************************

            If you wish to make your own website,  there are some inexpensive programs for non-techie people to do just that.  Also,  whoever is your ISP you might already have some free storage space and free online tools to create a basic website showcasing pictures of your work.  This way you can experiment to see if you want to do it yourself. 

            Of course when you are ready to "publish" your work online,  you should get your own domain name.  It will be much more professional than a webpage hosted on AOL or yahoo!

            I have used goDaddy.com for a couple of website's hosting.  They have some very inexpensive basic packages.  And they can handle your website domain name registration.  They also have some included tools for making your own website.  I think they even have a web forum that you can ask questions about what you are trying to do.

             

             

             

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            Sphere | Oct 22, 2006 07:27pm | #19

            No foul.

            Thanks for the info.

            I gotta start slow. cuz I am not quite ready for sitting here and cussin at my self..LOL

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

          15. PatchogPhil | Oct 22, 2006 07:37pm | #20

            Starting slow is good idea.

            Think about what you want it to look like,  what it is you want to "say" to your audience.

            goDaddy's Economy Plan is a pretty good deal:

            https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/shared.asp?se=%2B&ci=260

             

            Edited 10/22/2006 12:49 pm ET by PatchogPhil

          16. PatchogPhil | Oct 22, 2006 07:54pm | #21

            This might be more suited to you for help building your own website:

            https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/hosting_build_website.asp?se=%2B&ci=264

             

          17. ovolo | Dec 04, 2006 01:28am | #39

            Hey Sphere..did you get yourself a website yet?
            It depends on what you want it to do for you really, but I was in the business a bit and my brother has been doing them since the beginning. Because of all that I have a friend in Romania... thats right... outsourcing at it best. LOL.. well the fact is that she is a great lady and a teacher and does this in her part time because she is teaching herself. She is very talented and if you like the clean and simple imagery of my site, and if you can send her pictures she could help you get a basic website for less the $500. (She can live for a month on $400). The place where you want the expertise is the indexing so search engines and people can find you.... you also want to buy and maintain your own domain name etc I can help you with that its pretty simpleemail whatever if your interested Arthurhttp://www.thesmallbuildingcompany.com

          18. andybuildz | Dec 04, 2006 02:28am | #40

            Between Luka and Jerrald Hayes we have our own IN HOUSE web designers pal...lol 

            I have dreamt of an open world, borderless and wide... where the people move from place to place, and nobody's taking sides.. http://www.yusufislam.com

            http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM                                   

             

          19. ovolo | Dec 05, 2006 12:32am | #41

            .. I see if I had fully read all the posts .. I might have deduced that myself .. I thought to give some more IN HOUSE help.. ;)have a great dayarthurhttp://www.thesmallbuildingcompany.com

          20. andybuildz | Dec 05, 2006 01:53am | #42

            I was kidding with ya Ovolo : ) 

            I have dreamt of an open world, borderless and wide... where the people move from place to place, and nobody's taking sides.. http://www.yusufislam.com

            http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM                                   

             

          21. ovolo | Dec 05, 2006 02:04am | #43

            thought as much ..... but you never know .. thanks for the confirmationhttp://www.thesmallbuildingcompany.com

          22. andybuildz | Dec 05, 2006 02:08am | #44

            Spose I should have put a : ) next to my LOL
            Later bro
            Be well
            andy... 

            I have dreamt of an open world, borderless and wide... where the people move from place to place, and nobody's taking sides.. http://www.yusufislam.com

            http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM                                   

             

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            cyb | Dec 06, 2006 02:45am | #46

            I like your website ALOT. Good clean look.

            An inground trampolene? wow.

            your former co. name sounds kinda familiar ;).

          24. woodguy99 | Dec 06, 2006 04:46am | #47

             

             

            I like your website ALOT. Good clean look.

            Agreed!

            your former co. name sounds kinda familiar ;).

            So does the new one http://www.asmallwoodworkingcompany.com/aboutus.html

          25. ovolo | Dec 06, 2006 06:45am | #48

            ... the name sounds kinda familiar yes .. well the name 'notsobig' was notsobig back when I started using it in 1998. The same year the book that inspired it came out. Since then she has become a very big name and after talking with them we (the legal advice) decided that there was the possibility of confusion in the industry...LOL.. after considerable deliberation I have settled for thesmallbuildingco.. it it still in keeping with our general philosophy that bigger is not necessarily better.. and we like the implications of small ego's but big on quality.. and it seems lot of people appreciate it..http://www.thesmallbuildingcompany.com

          26. jimblodgett | Dec 06, 2006 07:42am | #49

            Hey Arthur - You guys ever do any building out in Egremont?Romania wasn't built in a day.

          27. ovolo | Dec 06, 2006 03:28pm | #51

            Hey JimYes.. lots. in North and South Egremont. We start a new house on Baldwin Hill there in April. (Egremont is on the way to the lumber yard.) :)Arthurhttp://www.thesmallbuildingcompany.com

          28. jimblodgett | Dec 06, 2006 05:02pm | #52

            I grew up in S. Egremont.  Are you from the Berkshires?  Romania wasn't built in a day.

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            Sphere | Dec 06, 2006 12:40am | #45

            My Dial up is just too slow to get anything done in a reasonable amt. of time.  I am supposed to wireless available in about 2 months, I'll see what kinda speeds we get outta that IF it happens.  Otherthan that, I will wait till maybe the dial gets faster than 28,8.  Mostly I have been connecting at 24,6 tho' recently.

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.

          30. PatchogPhil | Dec 06, 2006 08:00am | #50

            I ferget,  did you ever look into broadband internet via satellite?   I know DirecTV used to offer it but I think some other company took it over....   http://www.hughesnet.com  They start at $99/month.

            There are others.  Looks like starting at $50 a month gets you 512K speed (~10 times the speed of best dialup).

              

            Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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            Sphere | Dec 07, 2006 01:53am | #53

            Yeah I did, but IIRC the UPLOAD is still dialup.  I can hang on two more months.

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.

          32. PatchogPhil | Dec 07, 2006 02:49am | #54

            Now they have UPLOAD that is pure satellite.  No phone dialup required.

              

            Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

          33. andybuildz | Oct 22, 2006 07:16pm | #18

            My web host is http://WWW.POWWEB.COM
            Real inexpensive but a little confusing for me being I know zilch about this kind of stuff. I do have to say though...they ALWAYS get right back to me immeditaly when I have a question plus they have an online forum where you can ask questions to other members.
            I think Jerrald told me that he's going to start up an ISP co. too so you may want to ask him about it.
            Good luck...Creation arises, is sustained for awhile, and then things change. That’s the dance.http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

            Edited 10/22/2006 12:34 pm ET by andybuildz

          34. JerraldHayes | Oct 24, 2006 02:39am | #37

            Sphere - "I don't know if Jerrald does this sorta thing for hire?"

            We yeah I (we) do do that kind of thing. In fact I set up a separate company (Paradigm-360.com) that does that or more broadly does "web and information technology and business consulting to the home & garden industry" Years ago one of my builder/GC clients who thoughts, advice and ideas I really really respect, after seeing the intranet I had set up to get a large complicated stair building project expedited for him said to me one day "what the hell are you doing building stairs, you should be teaching this stuff (how to use the web and IT ) to other contractors". A couple of years later I finally took that advice to heart and set up a company to do just that.

            And while Andy is correct in saying we do hosting our in-house hosting plans are really directed at clients that want and need ColdFusion support (.cfm &.cfml). For client's not in need of ColdFusion we generally direct them to GoDaddy.com in that like PatchogPhil we feel they have "very inexpensive basic packages". Andy's host Powweb.com while very inexpensive to the best of my knowledge only offers "One Plan, One Price". Doing Andy's site was my first experience and only View Imageexperience with them so I can't say anything qualified good or bad about them but I'm confident their package at that price will fit anything you want to do and you wouldn't grown out of them for a while if ever.

            If I might make a recommendation, if you really want to spend the time and do this yourself I think Head First HTML with CSS & XHTML by Elisabeth & Eric FreemanView Image is an excellent, if not the the best overview book on (X)HTML out there right now in terms of understanding the understanding the technical mechanics of basic web design. We have a client who wants to be able to do updates and additions to hi site himself so I just got done reading it to see if it would work for him and I really like it and even learned a few things myself.

            View ImageAnd The Design of Sites: Patterns, Principles, and Processes for Crafting a Customer-Centered Web Experience by Duyne, Landay & HongView Image is my favorite book regarding site design in that it's kind of a the web programmers equalivaent of what Christopher Alexander's A Pattern Language View Image is to architects and contractors. probably not what you need to get started but I just thought I bring it up in case you spot it in a bookstore somewhere you might want to browse through it.

            One other consideration that Zak's post got me to thinking about when he suggested an online photo album as an alternative is why not do a blog? (Blogger.com , SixApart.com, or Wordpress.org. They can range anywhere from inexpensive to free to operate and might be more in keeping with your direction of showing off your diversity of talents and interests. I'm not so sure a web site that markets roofing and luthering makes much sense or a logical connection in the general publics eyes. That's kinda like a sushi restaurant that also offers acupuncture. But I think with a blog you can certainly get away with that.

            Be sure to keep everyone here posted as you guys work on this.

            View Image

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            Sphere | Oct 24, 2006 02:02pm | #38

            Wow. Thanks, I'll be on it this weekend for sure.

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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    zak | Oct 22, 2006 08:43pm | #22

    Don't let me dissuade you from a website, as I'd like to see a website of yours.  But you also have the option of storing your photos online as a public gallery, for free.  I use Google's Picasa web album, but there are others, like snapfish.  You get space for several hundred photos, and you can link to them, or I think you can copy/embed them directly from there.  I'll try. Link: CampMuirPicks/photo#4976321639209631762

    Ok, that looks like it works.

    View Image

    I'm not sure if the embedding thing works.  I haven't tried embedding from another site before.  Anyway, good luck with the picture thing.

    Edit:  if you click that small picture, it quickly (for me) takes you to the full size version.  Kind of nifty, I didn't realize it would do that.

    zak

    "When we build, let us think that we build forever.  Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin

    "so it goes"

     



    Edited 10/22/2006 1:47 pm by zak

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      Sphere | Oct 22, 2006 11:46pm | #23

      Well, I don't plan on being a roofer/gutterer forever, and having a site to try to describe my abilities in other areas of interest, may be beneficial in the future.

      From Organbuilding and lutherie to furniture and whimsey stuff is something I may need to get across as my background info.

      Hell, anything outta wood used to be my line. I hooked up with Granta few yrs ago and just never bothered to solicit any other work. He keeps me happily busy and I give him top priority over any other work or customer.

      But the day will be here when I physically wont enjoy what I am doing and also may be in a position that I can earn less and still survive doing another more sheltered passion.

      Altho' the mere thought of tuning a pipeorgan again,keeps me on the roof..LOL.

      Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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        zak | Oct 22, 2006 11:56pm | #24

        Yes indeed, your website would be an interesting place to wander through.

        Thing I like about the free photo storage places is the amount of photos you can put up.  Stuff that would make a website seem huge and way over-detailed.zak

        "When we build, let us think that we build forever.  Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin

        "so it goes"

         

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          Sphere | Oct 23, 2006 01:00am | #25

          That is a valid point to ponder. Unfortunatley, my portfolio got swiped when my van was looted 3 yrs ago. In it was some of my best photos of past work. Negs are in dis-array if I even still have them.

          What pics I still have will have to be scanned when I get the time,and the site will more than likely be more recent work, which is not really indicative of what I want to persue.

          I finally moved a LOT of pics to a partition of my drive that had more space, so my thinking is going towards off drive storage...hmmm.

          As it stands now, I am going to tackle it myself ( heck, I'm not that addled yet(G) ) and pester Luka if I hit a snag. And pay him ofcourse for his effort.

          Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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            Gunner | Oct 23, 2006 02:06am | #26

              Swipe pictures of other guys work from the photo gallery. Piece of cake.

             

             

             

             

             

             http://www.hay98.com/

             

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            Sphere | Oct 23, 2006 02:09am | #27

            LMAO..man yer bad.

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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            Gunner | Oct 23, 2006 02:12am | #28

              LOL. I take a lot of short cuts. You could be the hottest stair building pilot on Ky. That built a solid as heck house in Rhode Island. If you let me guide your career.

             

             

             

             

             

             http://www.hay98.com/

             

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            Sphere | Oct 23, 2006 02:16am | #29

            At least you didn't use the spee..never mind. (G)

            Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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            Gunner | Oct 23, 2006 02:22am | #30

            Nah Rez will take care of that.

             

             

             

             

             

             http://www.hay98.com/

             

    2. andybuildz | Oct 23, 2006 03:19am | #31

      Picasa has that kinda storage album? Hmmm. I don't think I ever noticed it nd I do have Picasa but haven't used it recently. I'll have to go back and check into it. I most lost all my photos when my puter crashed about 3-4 months ago.. I wonder if I could retrieve them that way from where ever its stored or did I have to do something special to make that happen?
      WOW...that's be incredable if all those pic were still around!Creation arises, is sustained for awhile, and then things change. That’s the dance.

      http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

                                         

       

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        Sphere | Oct 23, 2006 03:26am | #32

        That link ya gave me dried up. I tried to register and the page kept screwing up, so I called them, still no luck. If it is that bad just getting started, I don't wanna know what else they might not have for me...thanks tho', really.

        I also installed People PC for a backup ISP, guess what? It tried 11 different acess # and never DID connnect  LOL What a bunch of alpaca poop, I guess AOL ain't looking as bad as I thought.

        I might have a connection w/ the girl that did my wife's site, and she can do it on BB instead of me doing it on dialup..duh, why'd I not think of that first?  I forgot my wife had a site, hell, I forgot I have a wife. (G)

        Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

        Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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        zak | Oct 23, 2006 03:32am | #34

        I'm not sure if it would automatically back anything up.  I signed up for the web albums through my gmail account, and then downloaded the editing software.  When I open picasa editing software, there's a button on the bottom labeled "web album" or something.  If I hit it, the selected photo will be uploaded to my web album.

        Crossin my fingers for ya, though- maybe your photos are floating around cyberspace.zak

        "When we build, let us think that we build forever.  Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin

        "so it goes"

         

        1. andybuildz | Oct 23, 2006 03:44am | #36

          yeh. I figured but I will check it out. thanks broCreation arises, is sustained for awhile, and then things change. That’s the dance.

          http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

                                             

           

  3. darrel | Oct 23, 2006 03:30am | #33

    I do it for a living.

    In fact, I've been polishing up a portfolio management tool. I currently have a photographer using it:

    http://www.abernathyphoto.com

    It's an online tool to allow you to upload your own portfolio photos, have them resized, and then organized into categories and groups and the like. In addition, you can edit the text on your information based pages via the software. The idea is that you can maintain your portfolio wihout having to deal with HTML yourself.

    And my brother, an architect, had been bugging me to set it up for his portfolio. Always looking for more guinea pigs...er...uhh...'clients' willin to try it out. ;o)

    That said, if your main goal is to get a portfolio up, consider just signing up for a Flickr.com account, upload your photos, and send your potential clients there.

    As a professional web designer/developer, I usually say having your own site/url is a good thing (and it is) but when there's some great free tools out there, it's hard to not suggest them as well.



    Edited 10/22/2006 8:35 pm ET by darrel

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      Sphere | Oct 23, 2006 03:36am | #35

      I may be under control here in a few days, I kept your info so if I have a meltdown, I can reach ya. THANK You.

      Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      Shooting rubber bands at the Moon

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