Anyone do this Mike Sloggett workshop?
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The supplier I’ve been using to get all my materials for a very big job I’m closing in on invited me to attend this workshop tomorrow.
I know it’s sort of a traveling road show like the ones Gary Katz does.
Wondering if anyone attended these classes and how it was.. http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1.0.1&thid=123bddca26d8f4be&mt=application%2Fpdf
I suppose every lil’ bit helps so I reckon I’ll make the effort and go.
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i went to his roadshow in april, no downside, breakfast and lunch provided. i picked up a lot of great tips from mike and i won the new deluxe kreg jig in the free raffle. what's to lose?
You dancing the kreg jig now , eh?;)
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Your link doesn't work for me (so I don't know what the workshop is on), but after sitting in for his JLC Live session, I'd encourage you to go.
In fact, I wished that I'd seen more of his other sessions.
He's a whiz at practical math, and I'd bet you learn something there.
I don't think you'd find it the least bit boring or not worth your time.
If you go (and you will, right? LOL) make sure to post back here with what you learned.
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If you go (and you will, right? LOL<<<Yep...I'm all signed up hoping to win a Kreh jig...and oh yeh...learn me sumpin' too : )View Image
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Guess it's none of my bizness<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
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Mike Sloggett...was talking about some of the tools to install the Zipsystem and asked if anyone owned a J-Roller.....all I could think was...'yeh...I first used mine in the 60's"...lolView Image
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<asked if anyone owned a J-Roller.....all I could think was...'yeh...I first used mine in the 60's"...lol>Ha, I've retreaded a couple!On that zipwall, I've never used the roof system, but I have seen the wall system turned down...all fasteners had to be taped and window/door holes had to be wrapped... even with flanged frames and flashing tape... but that dispenser sounds really cool LOL
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fastners don't have to be taped....just seams and windows and vents...just like you would anyway...only it comes out better.View Image
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I know Huber says the fasteners don't have to be taped... sheathing wouldn't pass inspection unless it was taped $$$$http://www.tvwsolar.com
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We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
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I know Huber says the fasteners don't have to be taped... sheathing wouldn't pass inspection unless it was taped $$$$<<Yeh...the sheathing has to be taped. A 90' 3 1/2" roll goes for just under $25 but you're not dealing with tarps on the roof or tar paper. The tape does an amazin job of sealing all windows and doors etc which you should be doing anyway.
Another biggie is it's a one man operation that goes pretty fast from what I saw.The biggest neg to me is the cost of the tape but if you add everything together withthe time you save and how tight the job comes out...not to mention everyone stopping to look at your job b/c it looks different.....(have your yard signs up).Also is you're installing Hardie you can see where every stud is unlike house wrap which covers your nails.There's also the spacer dots on each panel just like onthe Advantech floor making nailing and laying roof and wall coverings out that much easier.Like I said b/4...if nothing else...using it just on your roof additions makes it easier so ouy don't need to mess with tarps.View Image
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as usual, I'm making this clear as mud LOL BI wanted to see the whole house wrapped in tyvek because the fasteners were penetrating the sheathing... well ya. The seams were already all taped. GC called Huber, who offered no help or documentation that would satisfy inspections... actually they did offer some help... they sold the gc some more tape to cover all the staple holes <G>just sayin', you may want to check with your inspections people about what they'll expect to see? Unless you really want to work out that "free" tape gun.http://www.tvwsolar.com
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just sayin', you may want to check with your inspections people about what they'll expect to see?<<<They actually covered that in the workshop. The LI rep was there giving his shtick and showed photos around LI where it was being used. Some of the towns like in the HAmptons are real strict and they seemed to have no problem.I most def will check first anyway. I'd only plan on doing the roofs on this particular job anyway just to avoid all the tarps/work alone.View Image
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>>>If you go (and you will, right? LOL) make sure to post back here with what you learned.<<<Spent the day with Mike Sloggett and a buncha LI builders. Real nice 'Road Show'!!
Sorry I missed Gary Katz's when he was here a few months ago but I was busy that day having a colonoscopy.... Sorry Gary...lolI tend to walk away from these events feeling stoopider than when I walked in.
So many things I need to still learn......but thats why I do these events among everything else I can think of. I did walk away learning quite a bit and if nothing else I always pick up a cpl of things I'll for sure delve further into now that I have the bug.He really went over a lot. From frame to finish...mostly framing and pushing Advantech and the Zipsystem.I do have to say I was real impressed with the Zipsytem. I remember it being discussed here a cpl of years back. I think Justin was asking us about using it.The tape is what makes the stuff expensive but after listening to their shtick as to why it's the best thing since sliced whole grain organic bread : ) I do have to say I for sure will use it when I have the opportunity.I'm getting veryyyyy close to signing a very big remodel and thought about the hassle it is to tarp half the house (and more) every day(the roofs).
Tarps on and off..on and off...ugh.If I use the Zipsystem even just on the roof it'd save me money in the cost of tarps and putting them on and taking them off every day.....not to mention it's better then any house wrap or felt paper IMO.Heyyyyyy...I even won a raffle there today.... a $100+ Zipsystem taping gun..with tape!! Yayyyyyyy....now I 'have to' try it....lol. Maybe I'll start with a dog house...lol.Mike covered construction calculators for all kinds of situations. We discussed how using a mositure meter in more situations then one thinks is as important as using your tape measure.His laser tape measure btw was pretty amazing. I didn't think they worked as well as they seem to but I'm guessing the one he used was as expensive as a good laser level.I spoke with him during several of the breaks and found out some interesting stuff about his thoughts on FHB now-a-daze which apparently is in line with a lot of what other builders I spoke to there felt....same as whats going on in some of the threads here.Basically that it's become more of a DIY'r rag.Overall it was a real nice day and I hear that the "Road Show' may be repeated with Mike and Gary here on LI. Mike Sloggett apparently lives about a half hour from me. I told him I wished I knew that when I had Tipi Fest here...He'd have been a great asset!!View Image
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"If I use the Zipsystem even just on the roof it'd save me money in the cost of tarps and putting them on and taking them off every day.....not to mention it's better then any house wrap or felt paper IMO."
I don't know much about it. Would it be significantly better than using plywood and sheet underlayments to keep things dry?
I don't know much about it. Would it be significantly better than using plywood and sheet underlayments to keep things dry?<<<It's a way tighter job then anything else and it will keep everything dry of course. Most people that I see use Tyvek or equivalent never tape it the way they're suppose to anyway...or even tape it at all.This stuff (Zipsystem) is...as it reads...is a whole 'system'. Which actually is VERY easy to use!!View Image
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Heyyyyyy...I even won a raffle there today.... a $100+ Zipsystem taping gun..with tape!! Yayyyyyyy....now I 'have to' try it....lol. Maybe I'll start with a dog house...lol.
Here ya go kid, the first reefer is free.........
Seems like I've heard this before
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Thanks for the update amigo. Glad you enjoyed yourself there, and came away with a prize!Go see Gary next time you have a chance. He puts on a good show as well. In fact you should make a trip up for JLC next year. And I'll say that Mike was incredibly gracious in answering my silly DIY questions about framing and siding. I'll admit that I feel a bit like a spy sitting in on those lectures, but I really just like to learn. LOLFunny about the Zip wall stuff. There's a commercial project a few blocks from me that I run past. It's stick framed from the ground up, which I thought odd, as I would have thought it to be done in steel or concrete. But they are covering the walls with Zip, or at least it looks like that stuff. I'll take a photo next time I run by there. I've seen the roof panels before, but never the wall sheathing. So if you do use it on the big project, take some photos!Laser tape... they are fun. And very useful, too. Much easier than bending a tape into a corner and guestimating. Need to take a series of measurements? Bang, bang, bang. And then you can walk over to the saw and cut them in order. It's a little too accurate at times, maybe.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Laser tape... they are fun. And very useful, too. Much easier than bending a tape into a corner and guestimating. Need to take a series of measurements?<<Kinda like Excel for me....First buncha times I added stuff up in Excel...I still did it long hand just cuz I didn't trust Excel...Excel does seem to work...lol.I'm guessin' them thar laser rulers work too huh?So what? Now I gotta have my laser ruler and laser level and construction calculator in one tool box now?
See what happens every time I go to one of these events?
Can I take all my tools with me when I die?Wait a minute...maybe I did...hmmmmmm
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Oh, you old hippies, not trusting any tool under 30. LOLBut, yeah, the laser tapes work well. I got one because all my work is solo, and they make life much easier for me. No construction calc yet for me, but there is an app for the iphone that does much the same work that I should just grab. One less tool, and then you've got more room in the toolbox for some new toy.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Ok guys, I would like to get the DH one of these laser tapes, which one do you suggest. He really like the PL laser I bought him so he should like one of these. Gotta keep him in fashion with his tools.
I've heard really good things about this one but for that kinda money....whewwww http://www.tools-plus.com/leica-disto-a5.html?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=froogle&utm_term=LEIA5Also heard good things about this one for a lot less money
http://www.amazon.com/CST-Berger-TLM100-Distance-Measurer/dp/B000BDIRYC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_topI'd probably get this one if I land this big job thats in the works of finalising. http://www.amazon.com/Leica-DISTO-Laser-Distance-Measurer/dp/B001AOUQXGView Image
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Wow.... my husband would want the 1st one, the most expensive one. But reading the reviews on Amazon this one is the best. But that kind of money buys alot of tape measures. Now that I am looking at it, It must take some time to adjust to using this if all you have ever used is a tape measure.
I wanted to surprise him with it but maybe I had better ask him first. In Cdn $ it will be alot more and it's to expensive to sit in the tool box.
thanks for sending me these.
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You could do what I did.I went to Microsoft Live Search (now http://www.bing.com and you've got to use Explorer. No Firefox or Safari, or it won't work), did a search for the laser measurer I wanted, and used the buy now feature on ebay and paid with paypal.Saved myself 30% that I got as a cashback rebate after 60 or 90 days (can't remember what it really is).So I got the Leica D3 for what I would have spent on the D2.The rebate percentages aren't as crazy now as they used to be, but I have seen them around 15% of late. It changes, so if you see it at a high discount, don't wait.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I've played with a Leica, maybe the 2... very nice indeed. One of my subs has a Bosch that works pretty well, too... me, I just keep cutting pieces 'til they fit <G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
I just keep cutting pieces 'til they fit
That's what I used to do when I was in training to become the village mohel :)
You might like the 3. It's got an application for stair angles.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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<That's what I used to do when I was in training to become the village mohel :)>Ya gotta try the Festool Nipperhttp://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
huh ...... i live behind that yard a couple of blocks back. i was wondering what the tent was for. i was inside spackling all day. how was it??
huh ...... i live behind that yard a couple of blocks back. i was wondering what the tent was for. i was inside spackling all day. how was it??<<<THATS where you live? I'd a stopped in had I known.
It was good....mainly they were pushing Advantech products like the Zipsystem.View Image
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yeah if you take warner road to the next left and we are down there.we live in front or behind depending on your orientering perspective in conservation park are some 300 acres we go in for fall walks theres an old orchard in there and pick some nice fruit. Pretty quiet too , all that forest/woods a big noise buffer from jericho turnpike. Im gonna google that zip system. If mem.ory serves is a curtain wall system that they have perfected over time too be pretty handy
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not that zip system...this one http://huberwood.com/main.aspx?pagename=zipsystemwalloverviewView Image
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