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Baldwin lockprep boo-boo

| Posted in General Discussion on August 27, 2005 06:23am

Anybody installed a full mortise Baldwin lock with this trim?

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It is the 6999 series (“Richland”) from their Arts and Crafts portfolio.  There is an error in the Baldwin lockprep “Installation Template Guide Chart” that can make you drill a hole where you don’t want it.  You’ll end up plugging the error hole and drilling another one where it belongs.

It is the bottom thru hole, the one that is for the thru-bolt that binds the bottom end of the large outside escutcheon plate to the door.  The bolt head is dressed up on the inside with a bevel-edged square washer-captureplate.

I am afraid of sending the template and chart to my door jobber (Brosco), who is supposed to shop-prep the entry door and frame for the hardware.  Unless I confirm the manufacturer’s spec error and make it crystal clear what the shop is to do, I think I will likely end up plugging and doing cosmetic finishing.

What do you do to ensure a door jobber gets a full-mortise prep right?


Edited 8/26/2005 11:25 pm ET by Stinger

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  1. timkline | Aug 27, 2005 08:05am | #1

    I do it myself.

     

     

    seriously.  stuff like this, i just don't sub out. 

    i have seen the baldwin drilling schedules wrong more than once.

    you've got a lockset that probably costs $700 going on a door that costs $1000+ and you only have one of them.  you can't afford a mistake.

    how often (these days) on a residence do you ever see mortise locksets installed on more than one or two doors in the house  ?

    let your prep guys fit and hinge the door in the frame and if you want, have them do the mortise for the lock case. 

    then you can take your time and do the face borings.

     

    carpenter in transition

  2. mbdyer | Aug 28, 2005 01:02am | #2

    Our doors come mortised by manu to archy's specs.  If they're effed, we send them back and let the two of them argue over backcharges.  If we site-mortise to hardware specs that end up being wrong we charge the hardware company (Baldwin being one) for the cost of a new door blank, the labor for doing it wrong plus extra for the accomodations in waiting for the correct layouts and temporary accomodations for the customer.  We install a hundred or so doors at once so when the hardware people get slammed with a $50K backcharge they sit up and listen.  On a small job if I prepped the door as per manu specs and my $700 hardware didn't fit I would first raise a sh$tstorm with the hardware people- they owe me a door plus my time.  If I installed a door that didn't open I would of course be liable for the costs of making it right.  If the customer rep doesn't tell me what I want to hear I litigate.  Make double sure you prepped as per their specs and then raise hell.

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