Doing some paint color and texture experimenting today (interior) with the client-selected Ben Moore eggshell. On three different covers (1/4″, 3/4″, and 1/2″ Merino), the paint wouldn’t even grab the roller well enough to rotate it on the sloped area of the pan. Had to tip the roller onto the end to get it to rotate enough to load all around. Good frame; clean and even lubricated right before.
Later changed to some Behr (just for a color check, I promise) and it was normal.
What up with that? Did great on the wall, just never seen this
Forrest – not a painter
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Maybe you need a different pan?
But it's my favorite! i keep it really clean.
Forrest
I don't think that it is too slippery. Rather the paint is so thick that it sticks on one side of the roller and weights that side down.
I have had the problem with a number of paints (often SW) when I first start. After useing it awhile I get the whole roller loaded I don't have as much of a problem.
I have learned to just it in a little bit. Then roll it on the pan it get a new part wet.
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
I have learned to just it in a little bit. Then roll it on the pan it get a new part wet.
Ever the grasper of the obvious, I assume you meant this:
I have learned to just dip it in a little bit.
In which case, I agree and I do the same. Incidentally, I use liners in my paint trays which actually takes a little longer to initially load up the roller, but at least my trays are really, really clean.
<Rather the paint is so thick >
I'm not so sure - even with the roller evenly loaded it slides on the chevrons.
Anyway, funny thing. Client was absolutely sure she wanted that paint, that color, okay? To check, I had put it on in the three sample patches for her to choose a roller texture; she immediately walked up and said that she liked the white "primer" color better in that attic addition!
Forrest
...I had put it on in the three sample patches for her to choose a roller texture...
Now you have my curiosity tickled. Are you saying that you used 3 different roller covers so you client could choose which texture she liked best? What were the 3 rollers/textures?
I know that as the nap gets thicker, the stipple marks (orange peel effect) gets more pronounced, but I've never had even my fussiest customer ever request more or less of this effect. I use the standard 3/8" nap for most surfaces. For doors, wainscot or surfaces that receive a glossy finish, I will use 1/4" nap because stipple marks look funky on a shiny surface.
Those 2 roller covers represent 99% of what I use. If I used a thicker roller cover, it would probably be for concrete block or someplace similar where I was trying to slobber the paint on.
-Don
Edit: I should have re-read your 1st post before I asked. You told us there which 3 roller covers you tried. Anyway, I'm still a little surprised to see you go this far to please a customer regarding the texture caused by 3 different rollers.
Edited 4/1/2007 8:46 am ET by DonCanDo
Well, part of it was my curiosity. A paint guy said the Merino covers left a good texture, and I wanted to try it. It makes small clumps on the filled roller, like muddy fur - even smells like a sheep! More short lines than stipple; maybe I can get a picture.
Client agreed that it was the best choice. Now we're working on colors.
Forrest
I would agree that it's because the paint is reallly thick. I use BM all the time and you have to load the roller evenly by dipping and rolling a little at a time.
The thickness of their paints makes them cut in really well with less coats, also I think that it tends to "flow" out better because you are getting a thicker coat as it is being applied.
I've painted with Behr before when the customers already had the paint but wold never use that stuff by choice... I charge extra for dealing with that junk. Really when you're painting the material isn't much of the cost, I could never understand why people insist on using Behr because it's cheaper than BM or Sherwin Williams.
I've never heard of these merino covers. All the BM I've spread is with the usual ones - without issue.
Not sure if this will help you but I always wet my clean dry roller with water first...spin it out and then apply my paint to it from the pan.
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