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   Sphere | Jun 19, 2004 01:58am | #1

   Johnson comes to mind..might have to garble a google

    

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

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   calvin | Jun 19, 2004 05:21am | #2

   This would be my opinion of course, but I got sick of putzing with the BS usual bifold hdwr.  I have and only will use Johnson 1700 hdwr.  This system "hangs" the door rather than using that cumbersome bottom pivot.  No blocks to make for carpet, the bottom pivot hangs off the jamb.  The door requires being a little shorter than with the usual hdwr, but I'll buy the regular pkg and add the 1700.  If you have the option,and need to order the door kit, request it be the 1700.   I block in front of the track and bring the casing head down over that track cover(jamb).  Very clean look and doesn't fall off even in your kids room.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

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   suntoad | Jun 19, 2004 09:11am | #3

   Johnson. Hands down.

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   Sphere | Jun 19, 2004 02:43pm | #4

   dat's the one..you the man. 

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

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   gdavis62 | Jun 19, 2004 03:10pm | #6

   Under what circumstances would you use the 1700SM kit instead of the 1700?

   The SM has mounts for the door rollers that screw to the backside of the slab top edges, and the non-SM roller brackets screw-mount to the top rails. 

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   calvin | Jun 20, 2004 01:39pm | #7

   bob, never having used the sm style, can't say other than what Johnson recommends.  I have mounted the regular 1700 in all the hollow core / mdf / masonite doors with no problem on the top pivot holding.  Usually when I use a prepackaged bifold, swapping to the 1700 hdwr, I'll have to plug the already prep'd holes b/4 fastening the new hdwr.  I've used the regular 1700 several times on fairly substantial solid wood doors with again, no hanging problems.  The screws supplied have a pretty decent cut (coarse) and grab well.

   If by rare chance these doors of yours will have access from either side, the face mounted SM wouldn't be too appealing to the eye.

   What I like about this set up, you can fill in on each side of the track (making it a head jamb) and with the door hanging right up close to the track, get a real nice big 8th gap at the top.  Clearance to the sides of course seems destined to be a shallow 1/4. You want a picture of the head gap, lemme know.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

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   hubcap | Jun 20, 2004 09:58pm | #8

   i just hung eight sets of bifolds two weeks ago with the 1700 series hardware.

   i hate bifold doors but these came out swell.

   like cal says-no carpet risers

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   JeffBuck | Jun 21, 2004 08:44am | #9

   maybe a pic?

   JeffBuck Construction, llc   Pittsburgh,PA

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   JRuss | Jun 19, 2004 02:57pm | #5

   I've found nothing that compares today with Johnson.

   Never serious, but always right.
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   rwj47 | Jun 21, 2004 09:11am | #10

   Bob,

          I've got three sets of VERY HEAVY six panel oak bifolds all on Johnson hanging style hardware and I am very pleased with them.  The only thing you might watch out for is the weight of the entire door is supended on just two screws that mount the top corner hanging brackets.  I had one door that a screw stripped in wood and had it not been for the second screw and me seeing that it was hanging a bit low,  it could of fell to the floor.   My doors are partical board core and the screws don't get a lot of bite in this sawdust and glue type wood,  I suggest you use longer screws and carefuly pre-drill the holes just to make sure.  Johnson hardware is the best I've seen or used.  Good luck!