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   Gene_Davis | Mar 14, 2007 05:57am | #1

   A couple beefy guys named Bob and Roy will work OK, but you gotta pay 'em, pay into their FICA, cover them with disability, worker's comp, etc., plus listen to all their B.S.  Also, they might not like the FM station you listen to.

   Proctors work for a lot of people, and my Tranzporters work just fine, too.  Six of one, half a dozen of the other.  Maybe someone here at Breaktime owns both and can give real world test reports on one versus the other, but hey, it's a pole, a tubular extender mechanism, a hinged foot, pulley top, a winch, a stop hook, and a pick-up hook.  One's made with a round tube, the other with a square tube.  What's to go wrong?

   Maybe it is just me, but a lot of the "which tool is best" inquiries that come on here get answered with stuff like, "I just love my (insert brand name and model here)."  I'm like, hey, that sure told me a lot.  And, do you really want to trust the opinion of someone that develops that kind of a relationship with a tool?

   Too bad they're not sold one pole at a time instead of in pairs.  You could buy one Proctor, and one Tranzporter, then see which one breaks first. 

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   Troublemaker | Mar 14, 2007 06:01am | #2

   This is how the West was won, before it became overrun by Illegal framing crews....

   American Manufacturing Model 6200 Wall Jack

   About $90. each.

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   Gene_Davis | Mar 14, 2007 06:16am | #3

   Now that you mention it, an with an illegal framing crew you don't need any equipment at all!

   I wouldn't want to hoist a big gable wall with that jack you use.  No sir. 

   And where's the flopover stop?

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   Troublemaker | Mar 14, 2007 06:25am | #4

   Bigger walls = more jacks.

   What is a flopover stop?  Sounds like something a piece of banding can cure!

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   hvtrimguy | Mar 14, 2007 06:56am | #5

   looks like a modified pump jack. probably could use your pump jacks to do the job if you thought about it enough. I can't, it's too late at this point."it aint the work I mind,
   It's the feeling of falling further behind."Bozini Latini

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   blue_eyed_devil | Mar 14, 2007 10:40pm | #8

   You can buy one Mac-Hoist. I'm sure you'd buy another after you used it once.

   http://item.express.ebay.com/Industrial-Supplies_Material-Handling_Hoists_Mac-Hoist-Wall-Lifting-Jack-Crane-Winch-Rig-it-Lift-dm_W0QQitemZ170022028164QQihZ007QQptdnZHoistsQQddnZIndustrialQ20SuppliesQQadnZMaterialQ20HandlingQQcmdZExpressItem"...

   keep looking for customers who want to hire  YOU.. all the rest are looking for commodities.. are you  a commodity ?... if you get sucked into "free estimates" and  "soliciting bids"... then you are a commodity... if your operation is set up to compete as a commodity, then have at it..... but be prepared to keep your margins low and your overhead  high...."

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   Piffin | Mar 14, 2007 01:24pm | #6

   Gene made a good answer.
   as I clicked this thread, I was composingmy answer in mind to say

   I have Proctors, like them, and have never used anything else so I can't comment.

   I have SEEN the others pictured here used out west and seen the 2x4 break with almost catastrophic result, so I stayed away from them when it was time for me to buy.

   I wish I had made the investment years before I did.
   All my joints agree with me.

    

    

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   blue_eyed_devil | Mar 14, 2007 10:39pm | #7

   http://item.express.ebay.com/Industrial-Supplies_Material-Handling_Hoists_Mac-Hoist-Wall-Lifting-Jack-Crane-Winch-Rig-it-Lift-dm_W0QQitemZ170022028164QQihZ007QQptdnZHoistsQQddnZIndustrialQ20SuppliesQQadnZMaterialQ20HandlingQQcmdZExpressItem

   Around here, we use Mac Hoists.

   I chose them because I could make the boom any size from ordinary framing lumber. Typically, I made them out of 2x4 stock about 11' 6" long or 16' long. I've seen guys make them out of 20' 2x6's with the ends tapered to slide into the bracket.

   Notice how they store. To me, that is the biggest advantage over the proctors and other types of fixed boom hoists.

   I have raised some unbelieveable walls....tall, heavy, with chimney chases, etc with these. Thank god for cranes and forklifts! On one job though...a walkout I had to pull out the old mac hoists because I couldn't reach it with the forklift or crane.

   We typically used them in pairs but a single machoist will easily (easily?) raise about 20' of tall wall.

   The holdback issue is something we always had to deal with. Normally, when a heavy tall wall was raised, we'd have two jacks on it. At some point, when the wall was relatively light, we'd designate one jack as the holder and reposition the other jack as a holdback. When the wall reached the tipping point, the holdback jack would crank it out to the desired location.

   On taller walls, the walls would often be at the peak of our 16' jacks and we'd loosen the bottom of the jacks and walk the wall the rest of the way out. They were very effective on holding the wall back, unless there was a substantial projection that wanted to pull the wall over (we encountered that all the time).

   Again, thank goodness for cranes and forklifts.

   blue

   "...

   keep looking for customers who want to hire  YOU.. all the rest are looking for commodities.. are you  a commodity ?... if you get sucked into "free estimates" and  "soliciting bids"... then you are a commodity... if your operation is set up to compete as a commodity, then have at it..... but be prepared to keep your margins low and your overhead  high...."

   From the best of TauntonU.