Had a question regarding a nominal 4′ wide opening bifold closet door. This needs to be done in 2 panels as there can be no obstruction to the opening on one side(drawers in an existing closet organizer need to open, closet has/had bi pass doors). I was figuring on using 2 2-0 stock flush doors with Johnsons 1700 hardware. Upon checking out the hardware specs they say you can not exceed a panel width of 18″ on any of their hardware. Anyone had any experience with a 2 panel, 4′ bifold? My other easy option is a multi folding/ accordion type door but I dont think it will look that great in this application. Thanks for any input.
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Bifold doors are notorious for getting out of alignment and causing the user to curse a stream of profanity. If possible, I'd suggest 2 regular 2' wide doors, otherwise you'd want to reinforce the hardware and track as best you can.
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I just finished a job where I built a 5'0" 2-panel bi-fold using 2 2'6" hollow core doors with a 72" piano hinge and 2 3 1/2" butt hinges. One ball catch at the top, next to the piano hinge, of the trailing door and a nonoperating handle also on the trailing door next to the piano hinge.
Bought a length of 3/4" aluminum C-channel for the guide and used a short length of 1/16"x 3/4" aluminum flat stock bent 90 degrees along the long axis and mounted a replacement shower door wheel at one end and screwed the flat stock to the back of the trailing door with the wheel running in the c-channel. The wheel sticks out past the end of the door about 3".
The C-channel is attached to the head jamb in place of regular door stop and runs long to accomodate the wheel.
What makes this work is the closet opening is L shaped. 60" long with a right angle turn of another 24". There's a standard 2'0" door covering that opening. If the customer wants they can open both sets of doors at the same time and walk into what would have been a tight squeeze to get to the shelves on the end of the closet. The full opening is 7'.
I could have mounted the wheel on the top of the door like a regular bi-fold but that would make the doors look awkward as they are next to a matching set of ordinary opposed double doors. And I would have had to cut them down to standard bi-fold height.
The wheel on the end of the flat stock extension also allows the door to open without dragging the trailing edge against the channel/stop.
This could also work in a regular cased opening if the channel could be let into a small opening cut into the top of the side jamb so the channel could run long.
It sure looked funny to see 5' of center hinged door swinging in the breeze before I attached the hardware but it moves easily without sag.
Don't know anything about the hardware package you referenced but nothing says you have to use someones prepackaged, limited scope hardware.
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I just installed the 200FD series in the following setup:
5' opening, 8'tall, 1 3/4" doors, each door weighed about 100 lbs. (mirrors and inset glass tiles on a previously 6 panel door).
I have to say I'm delighted so far. This setup not only clears a dresser that sits close to the door, but also provides a place for my wife to duck behind when her dork husband opens the door while she's dressing.
For opening hardware, I used a towel rack with a dowel screw bent 90 degrees so it sits right in the center of the hinged area. It opens smooth as silk.
Hardware from Johnson was about $180. Hardware from Hafele was about $1800 for the same setup. No exageration. I have Hafele pocket door hardware that I'm very happy with, but I can't justify putting a good used car in a closet.
Only change I made was using 4" ball bearing hinges from HD instead of the 3" ones from Johnson that they said would work OK... bigger is better in this case.
I'll post a pic later, my digi is in for repairs right now.
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Lots of good info so far. Looks as if 1601 or the duty series from Johnston would both work, as well as the "custom" or site built doors. Thanks to all