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   AitchKay | Nov 20, 2009 10:07pm | #1

   I'll take split pea with ham hocks over either of 'em any day.

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   jimcco | Nov 20, 2009 10:20pm | #2

   Don't like split pea. prefer beans or even lentils:)

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   Brickie | Nov 20, 2009 10:25pm | #3

   a concrete ledge is always preferred over any type of legume.  However, if the supplier is referring to, say, 3" x 3" x 1/4" metal angle then that is a perfectly acceptable foundation.

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   CapnMac | Nov 21, 2009 12:32am | #4

   I'll agree with Brickie, other than the "lagged to foundation" part.

   Lintel cast in place would be ok.  Nice long expansion bolts, too.

   Always has bothered me, bolt-on brick ledge for being in full ground contact either now, or in the future.  And, out-of-sight=out-of-mind far too often.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   jimcco | Nov 21, 2009 12:48am | #6

   Ya, the out-of sight, out-of mind part was my major concern.

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   Piffin | Nov 21, 2009 12:46am | #5

   Probably OK in tulsa, but not up here.

   I do like lentils with onions and bacon though.

    

    

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   jimcco | Nov 21, 2009 12:51am | #7

   Hell, I never could spell. Rely on spell checker but computer crashed and haven't gotten around to reloading spell checker.

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   Framer | Nov 21, 2009 01:05am | #8

   Is thick a block foundation? If so whey wasn't there a brick ledge with that block? Was the brick an afterthought?

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   jimcco | Nov 21, 2009 01:26am | #9

   Nothing yet. It will be poured concrete and can have a ledge, but if acceptable, the angle is a lot cheaper than 3-4 inches more thickness for full basement depth.

   It is my impression that using the lintel also shelters the top of exterior foundation insulation.

   Edited 11/20/2009 5:28 pm ET by jimcco

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   CapnMac | Nov 21, 2009 02:00am | #10

   the angle is a lot cheaper than 3-4 inches more thickness for full basement depth.

   Well, you could cast it as a bump-out.  Except that's not likely to be a stanard sort of formwork in basement country.

   If this is not built yet, go ahead and have studs (like around 3/4 x 9" with an upset head probably 15" OC) put on the back of the angle iron, and build them right in.

   Down here in slab-on-grad country, we just put a 2x6 horizontal arounf the edge of the forms.  That yields a 5-1/2 x 1-1/2" consistent brick ledge all the way around.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   Gene_Davis | Nov 21, 2009 03:08am | #13

   I like to add lentils to my concreat soup. 

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   oops | Nov 21, 2009 02:29am | #11

   IMHO, a steel lintel should be considered only when you have screwed up and forgot to pour a brick ledge.

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   jimcco | Nov 21, 2009 02:50am | #12

   That was always my understanding of the issue; that's why I wanted to see the thinking elsewhere>