I’m building a tree fort for my kids. I want to attach headers to a tree with lag bolts. the tree splits near the base and both trunks are around 12″ in diameter. the tree is a nearly 60 ft tall oak
at the height where I want to put the headers, about 10 feet up, (one each side of the tree) the trunks are 4 ft apart. on top of the headers I will frame a 6’x8′ deck then build on that as lightly as possible
I’m thinking I dont want to penetrate the tree too deep, maybe 2″ at best. I’ll use 4 1/2″ lags for each header. thats gonna be 8 lags, 4 in each trunk, 2 in each side
also, one side of the tree house will have 2 posts all the way to the ground on footings
should I be overly concerned about the two trunks moving in the wind? I could do things slightly different and bolt 4 cleats that the headers could “ride” on, or slot the bolt holes in the header
I dont want to kill the tree. I’m sure this has been done before and if anyone has any insight into the impact on the tree it would be appreciated
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I think that the two trunks moving in the wind would destroy the connections you made in pretty short order. And possibly damage the tree, too.
Keep in mind that the tree is growing. Fastening to the tree is a bad idea all around IMHO.
Better to support it from the ground and allow room for the tree to move and grow.
different approach to consider. What you present could destroy the tree, IMO.
A trunk that separates at a sharp angle down low like that is a weak trunk as a general rule and much more likely to split apart as time goes on. A common repair/preventative for this is to run a couple of large long wall bolts through both with large thick washers at the out projections to act like rafter ties in a house to prevent spread.
so instead of notching and damaging the bark and growth layers on one side to side lag a dubious header in place, I would use wall bolts or a combo large eyebolt and cables to bind the two trunks together at about that level, then lay the tree fort support system across that.
Trees do move a lot in the wind, so have some of the fort supported on the tree and some on the ground means the structure will be weakened and unsafe sooner than later. secure it all to the tree so it moves with the whole
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Here's a couple of interesting pages on the topic:
http://www.treehouseengineering.com/home.html
http://www.treehouses.com/treehouse/construction/home.html
Mike Hennessy
Pittsburgh, PA
that's a great site..... would like to see the gallery pics of 20 years from now with some kind of history of the projectsMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Yeah -- I think I got that link a while back from here. That bolt-on limb concept with the special drill that forms a seat for the washer is pretty cool. And I'd love to talk to that engineer -- I can't begin to imagine what calcs he has to do and what standards he uses for strengths, etc.
As for looking at these in 20 years, I'm with ya. I have a sneaking suspicion that many that used to be supported by 3 trees will be supported by one or two trees and a steel post, with a nice woodpile nearby. LOL. I can't fathom spending as much $$$ as some of these folks on a structure that's held up by a relatively impermanent "foundation". Still, with care, I suppose the trees could have a useful lifespan as long as the structure's.
You gotta admit tho', these things are boyhood dreams come true. ;-)
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Here's a neighbor's treehouse from 10+ years back. Edited to hide the misc. junk underneath that eventually found it's way to shelter as the years rolled on.
Simple lags thru PT CCA 2x6s to the 4 trees and some Simpson bracketed 2x6 joists and covered with slabwood floor and walls. I'm thinking must be allot of weight on that critter.
Innertube rubber gasket/flashing around the tree penetrations on the roof.
But still solid and still crazy after all these years.
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I once saw the local little hitler type insane building inspector drive slowly pass and stop his car for a closer look.
He was the same guy that made a paragraph in a backsection of the local rag for snooping around on someone's property way out in the sticks
The homeowner's little dog found him and bit him in theaz requiring a trip to the ER.
heh heh Still cracks me up thinking about that.
Here's a solution I came up with a few years back, still holding up great.
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