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   Guest_ | Jul 17, 1999 07:20am | #15

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   I'm a framer and general contractor in Vermont.I'm building my own house and was lucky enough to come into a 1000 feet of 1x10 premium pine.I am going to mill some down to use as baseboard and trim material and was wondering what the best tool to buy was for removing "table saw swirl" from the rip ends was.

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   Guest_ | Jul 10, 1999 07:20am | #1

   *A floor joiner would do fine. So would a hand plane or an electric planer. Heck, a router with a spiral straight bit on a router table would do. But, you can avoid the swirls by using a feather board when ripping on the table saw. Just slow down your feed rate.I was going to spout off about a framer asking about fine woodworking but thought the better of it.

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   Guest_ | Jul 10, 1999 08:09am | #2

   *Chris,Glad to see a framer and GC such as yourself here. We need a few more good men. The tool you need is a jointer.You might weight the cost of a good 6" jointer vs having a mill "S4S" (surfaced four sides) the lumber for you. If you decide to buy a jointer, call back and I'll tell you what I know about setting them up and using them.Ed. Williams

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   Guest_ | Jul 10, 1999 08:26am | #3

   *Like Ed said , a jointer is the usual tool for this job but If you only need to clean up the saw marks and dont need to straighten the edge I've had good luck with a thickness planer , a relatively enexpensive portable type will work fine for removeing such a small amount of wood . You can " gang up " five or six peices at a time on edge and run them thru at once until you have done one edge of all peices then lower the cutter and do the other edges . They all have to be ripped to the same width and square to the face for this to work well . A decent Portable planer is cheaper [ around $ 400.00 ] than a good jointer and faster using this gang method . Chuck

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   Guest_ | Jul 11, 1999 08:25am | #4

   *Thanks for the response.Good carpenters sometimes have to ask questions you know.I like the idea of using a thickness planer.I was thinking about getting a jointer but I like Chuck's idea idea about "ganging up" the wood. Any suggestions about which planer I should be looking for that won't bust my budget?

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   nigel_martin | Jul 12, 1999 01:09am | #5

   *You will find a lot of for delta and dewalt and both make nice machines. delta has a slight advantage with double edge blades. dewalt needs to be resharpened. But finding a good tool sharping service can be tough. I have the earlier delta and it works fine, sometimes the blades go on sale ($15 a pair, normaly $25) if you machine outdoors then the dust hood won't be needed. Harbor freight tools sometimes have refurbished models on sale.

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   Guest_ | Jul 12, 1999 01:48am | #6

   * Chris,

   For about $60 bucks a well tunned Record #5 would do the job nicely.

   Joseph Fusco View Image

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   Guest_ | Jul 12, 1999 04:42pm | #7

   *aa hollow ground planer blade in your table saw should give the results you are looking for , should be less than $ 20.oo

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   Guest_ | Jul 14, 1999 08:49am | #8

   *Don, I agree, the Systimatic Thin Kerf combination blade I'm currently using leaves little if any swirl.At $60 each a little more expensive, but a durable and well made item.

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   Guest_ | Jul 14, 1999 10:28pm | #9

   *Fess up Chris, what tool are you really just trying to find an excuse to buy and not get into trouble with your wife???????

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   Guest_ | Jul 16, 1999 07:10am | #10

   *I agree with Ron, and many others and justifying tool purchace to the wife (bookkeeper) is lots of fun.I have set a goal to purchace a new tool for every job, sometimes nothing more expensive then a nail set or cats paw,but i cant already have one and I must be able to justify it for the job, my biggest toy was a laser plane, last week was a smart level.But as we all know, the more toys.....ah I mean tools that we do not have to rent in the long run makes us money......right....nod your head yes.... Anyway.....A jointer should do the trick, hey what is a record #5 is that like a 33 and a third ?

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   Guest_ | Jul 17, 1999 05:00am | #11

   *Chris,The guys are right. A good table saw blade or a good set-up on a router table would definately take care of your problem. But since you found your excuse for buying a planer, do look at the 12 inch portable planer made by Ryobi. Mine is a Ryobi AP12. This planer comes with reversible edge blades so if you nick one, you can turn the blade around and keep going. There is no need to fiddle with setting blade height because the blades are made to "mate" with the planer's cutting head. These blades are "throw-a-ways" but will give you great , polish smooth cuts for a long time before dulling. Blades cost less than $15. (I use steel blades, not carbide)Planer only takes off 1/8 inch at a time and is set up so you can't take off a bigger bite than this 1/8 per pass. Most of the 12 inch portable planers are like this. The newest 12 inch Delta is supposed to eliminate snipe, and also comes with a dust chute. My buddy has this one and likes it, but snipe still is present. Snipe is not a big factor, allow 1 to 2 inches in extra length on your board or keep feeding additional boards simultaneously through the planer and only the last board will show some snipe.My Ryobi was $425 new. The Deltas, Penn States, Dewalts, etc. all run around $350 to $400. All of them are nearly identical. DO BUY a dust chute with your planer. LOTS OF SHAVINGS .....Dust chute is worth it. I don't have it (it was an "option only" on my Ryobi, but I wish I had bought it). I keep my shop vac nozzle close to the outfeed side but a chute would be better.Have fun with your new toy...er, I mean tool!Davo

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   Guest_ | Jul 17, 1999 06:06am | #12

   *Chris; Sorry I missed the point , disregard my post about the saw blade and go out and get the jointer that you need to do the job . I am realy sorry

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    Guest_ | Jul 17, 1999 07:08am | #13

    *Joe.....may I?A Record #5 is a hand plane. Beautiful tool.Ed. Williams

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    Guest_ | Jul 17, 1999 07:13am | #14

    *Davo,1/8" per pass?Sounds kind of deep to me.With my planers that size I never cut more than a 1/4 turn per pass on the flat.1/8" cut would probably bog down my 220V Delta 13" surface planer.Be be nice to your tools. They will last longer.Ed. Williams

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    Guest_ | Jul 17, 1999 07:20am | #16

    *Ed,

    Feel free to step right in anytime you like. ;-}

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