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In my relatively new job as maintenance director for a nursing home, we seem to do alot of rewiring, adding circuits, etc.
I’ve got several years experience in this industry and have always used and seen used BX or conduit. Never Romex.
I was questioned today about why we don’t do it the easy way and just use Romex when fishing wire through walls.
I’m sure the reason is in the NEC, could somebody point me to the right section? Or am I wrong. Sometimes you are so sure of something until somebody asks you why you do what you do.
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First you need to check your local codes. Some cities don't allow Romex for any applications, even single family homes.
But as I read it you can use it. ##6-4(2) "Multifaminly dewlings and OTHER STRUCTURES, except as prohibited in Sec 336-5".
336-5 limits it to 3 story structures and I don't see anyother limits that would apply.
*517-61-c-1
*But most nursing homes don't have anesthetizing equipment.
*I tried to keep my response short, but between the time I saw yourquestion and the time it took me to look it up [in the index], Bill Hartman had already responded. The Internet is fast. "Nursing homes" are defined in section 517 - 3. Unless you want to quibble about whether your "nursing home" fits the definition, consult section 61, part "(c)" of Article 517. This used to be on-line, courtesy of Mike Holt, but I doubt it is now. It should be since it is important and is often adapted as law. And laws should be in the public domain. The basic gist is "(1) Wiring ... shall be installed in a metal raceway system or cable assembly." [The material omitted under the ellipsis is even more restrictive, pertaining to operating rooms and such. -Peter
*But 517-10(b)(2) "Part B shall not apply to the floowing: ... "Areas of nursing homes and limited care facilites wired in accordance with Cahpters 1 through 4 of this Code where the areas are used exclusively as patient sleeping rooms".However, my guess is that many local codes will not allow that exception.
*I tried to keep my response short, but between the time I saw yourquestion and the time it took me to look it up [in the index], Bill Hartman had already responded. The Internet is fast. "Nursing homes" are defined in section 517 - 3. Unless you want to quibble about whether your "nursing home" fits the definition, consult section 61, part "(c)" of Article 517. This used to be on-line, courtesy of Mike Holt, but I doubt it is now. It should be since it is important and is often adapted as law. And laws should be in the public domain. The basic gist is "(1) Wiring ... shall be installed in a metal raceway system or cable assembly." [The material omitted under the ellipsis is even more restrictive, pertaining to operating rooms and such. -Peter
*Just FYI in NJ (where Ryan is) we have a State code (NJ Uniform Construction Code) with only State modifications allowed - no local requirements, other than what an individual inspector might interpret from the NEC. There are very few modifications to the NEC in NJ.Jeff
*All this time I thought he was in AZ. If he's in NJ, who's in AZ????
*I thought he was in Texas! Ryan, wasn't it you who, a long time ago, talked about using large hay bales for standing on when building pole buildings (in place of metal scaffolding), or do I have you mixed up with Lonecat or someone. I remember seeing pics of these hay bales and a high loader fork truck. Sure thought this was in Texas.Davo.
*At least you think I'm in one of the "live free or die states." and not one of the "double mocha latte and a pepperment scone for my poodle please" states like California or Canada.No, totally from NJ, the rural farm part hidden down by Delaware.And those weren't hay bales we used for scaffolding although that does sound like a good idea. We used these huge oak pallets. Four of them were made to become the deck of a 10'x16' wagon so that nursery stock could be unloaded from the wagons by a forklift, four empty pallets were set on the wagons and they went back out to the field to be loaded again.
*Ryan, Thanks for clearing things up for me.I thought I'd lost my mind. (maybe I have anyway!)Davo.
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In my relatively new job as maintenance director for a nursing home, we seem to do alot of rewiring, adding circuits, etc.
I've got several years experience in this industry and have always used and seen used BX or conduit. Never Romex.
I was questioned today about why we don't do it the easy way and just use Romex when fishing wire through walls.
I'm sure the reason is in the NEC, could somebody point me to the right section? Or am I wrong. Sometimes you are so sure of something until somebody asks you why you do what you do.