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Reviving the recent ‘can we talk’ topic — a recent post reminded me of this:
I work a lot leading volunteer labor (church groups, habitat, etc). How many times have y’all heard arguments over whether to peel the plastic off the tar strip on asphalt shinges. I have – too many times (and I won’t tell y’all whether I peel’em or not!).
alad
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. . . uh Alad
Isn't the tar strip actually attached to the underside of each shingle in the bundle to prevent the tar strip, which is applied to the top of each shingle, from gluing the bundle together, piece by piece, while it's still bundled? Once those two surfaces are offset when nailed down the plastic strip is no longer necessary, and on my jobs, stays right where the manufacturer affixed it, under the shingles forever.
Never thought I'd ever type the word bundle so many times in one paragraph. . . shoulda put together some sorta macro I guess.
*you got it, patrick. A few months ago, we did a habitat house, and I had an old-timer insist on peeling the strips off. He did every one he put on, and had a couple of converts, too. He was a true jack-of-all-trades-and-master-of-none. You could write a book on him. :)alad
*I have never peeled those strips. They are there to keep the shingles from sticking together in transit. I admit they don't work too well when it's hot out though. One additional note, on every bundle of shingles there is a description of usage, installation, and nailing patterns. Never have I seen it stated that FAILURE TO REMOVE THE STUPID PLATIC STRIPS ON THE BACK OF YOUR SHINGLES WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY! LOL SteveM
*SteveM,Thanks a helluva lot!! Now I suppose I can expect to see your warranty suggestion show up along with the tripe on attic ventilation when I look at shingle warranties.Makes me wonder, do most of you remove the wax paper between hamburger patties before frying them? Just curious.
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Just the other day, the guy at the lumber yard was explaining to me that I would soon be seeing warranty exclusions for roofs not properly vented!
On the topic, I can't see the harm in removing the strips (not counting the waste of time and the inevitable litter), but I don't do it.
Rich Beckman
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Hey Barry
About that wax paper quip. . . isn't that how they get those Big Mac things to stick together?
Passs the Tofu
Patrick
*what are you guys thinking of? the manufacturer placed the asphalt adhesive there to stick the SHINGLES together after installation. Haven't you ever seen a roof after a hurricane. I guess common sense aint so common. sorry for getting carried away. take off the plastic and do a quality job next time. we can all learn from this forum. good luck shingle head
*Another funny. We were working on a hab. house in April a couple years ago. One of the guys pulled his chevy van up under a kickout roof, to use the van roof as scaffolding. He was having his helpers peel the strips, and they were then laying them on the roof of his van. While they were at lunch, it got hot enough for...you guessed...the shingles to stick to his van. Last time I saw it, there was still tar up there. Even worse, the van roof, with their weight, had buckled in, it would probably hold 30 gals of water when it rained!.alad
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Savoy, the shingles I use say very specifically, many times on both the package and the little strip "DO NOT REMOVE". I usually follow that instruction.
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savoy;
common sense tells me when shingles are installed
the tar strip sticks to the very bottom of the
shingle on top of it. Since the plastic strip is
on the back of the shingle five inches above the
tar strip on the shingle under it how could it possibly interfear with the roof sealing down.
Common sense.
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SteveM et al. Right you are Steve. On shingle wrapper from GP it says"NOTE: the protective strip on the back of each shingle is to prevent sticking together of shingles while in the bundle. Removsal of the strip is not required during applicatrion."
Gene L.
*I've heard of idiots that remove the strip, but Arlen is absolutely right. That plastic strip is for shipping and is not in the way of properly layed shingles.
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All I got to say is "duh" ...Zeke
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Reviving the recent 'can we talk' topic -- a recent post reminded me of this:
I work a lot leading volunteer labor (church groups, habitat, etc). How many times have y'all heard arguments over whether to peel the plastic off the tar strip on asphalt shinges. I have - too many times (and I won't tell y'all whether I peel'em or not!).
alad