I hope to continue to get the excellent advice I receive here as we go forward in the construction of the new house. I have two questions:
Does anyone have any experience using the Trim Tex drywall products specifically the 3/4″ Bullnose outside corner and inside corner trim with the baseboard adaptors? Is it easier (and cheaper/faster) than standard finish techniques? Would you recommend it? Does it (subjective I know) look good? Would it fit with an Arts and Crafts influenced interior (but not overly rigorously so).
The window, door and baseboard trim is going to be vertical grain fir rectangular in section with the edges, except those adjoining the wall and floor, slightly turned over. For the windows and doors the top piece (rail?) will be slightly thicker (maybe an 1/8″) than the verticals (stile?) to produce a nice shadow line and also slightly wider and extending over the stiles at each side. I don’t know what to do about the window sill and apron. The design is intended to be somewhat reminiscent of Arts and Crafts. Questions, (finally!) are there classic meaurement relationships for this approach? Do you have any suggestions for dimensions of each of these elements including baseboard heighth? TIA
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Greetings Limeyzen,
This post to your question will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again.
Perhaps it will catch someones eye that can help you with advice.
Cheers
Eenie,weenie...chili-beanie
rez, tx for the effort. No responses so I suppose my question was too esoteric or unclear. Normally get good and prompt help here so I'm not complaining. Maybe I should post over at Inspired House?
Sounds as if you are contemplating putting a square (A&C) peg in a round hole, that seems like an odd combo to me.
Just my $0.02, your mileage may vary.
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Limeyzen,
Sorry you haven't gotten any responses yet. I'll take a stab at this one.
I'm a trim carp that normally does higher end, custom jobs. I also love the A & C style.
First, I do not think the trim tex bullnoses will be in keeping with the style you are trying to suggest. Even if your not being that rigorous. That's a personal opinion though, only worth 2 cents.
The trim you describe is called sanitary trim. Mostly, you will only see one edge eased over. This edge placed towards the opening. Round edge towards door or window. Your scheme is correct but there's not any hard and fast rule governing size. Your keen eye will see a discrepancey in proportion. Most trim was made up of what was available at the lumber yard. Keep to stock size and expound from there.
Baseboards for the movement were tall. Mostly around 5-6" But changed if tall wainscoting was applied.
The window sill should be a simple bullnose with a flat apron of sanitary flat stock same as your door casing trim. I suggest getting a book on the A & C period and modify something you see for your own eye.
I hope this helps.
JimmyO
That is most helpful. Thank you.
Your comment about picking up a book on Arts and Crafts trim caught my eye.I have Bob Lang's book, but I wonder if you can recommend others?
I will comment on the cost component of the bullnose beads.
You are going to pay a premium price for a product your drywaller is more than likely unfamiliar with and uninterested in working with. Even if he is familiar with it, it takes significantly longer to install.
Then, you get to run the base around the round corner. Which leaves a void behind the base. When the homeowner asks what to do about it and make it look good, if you come up with a nice solution, please get back to us here, because I haven't seen one I like yet.
Other than using standard bead.
Which is what you should do.
carpenter in transition
I should have been clear that I'm the homeowner and a "knowledgeable" DIYer. The GC had not heard of Trim Tex and I had seen their ad in FHB. Anyway, re the transition from round corner to baseboard they have a thing called a "Bulladaptor" which loks like a 6" (timable) oversized plastic corner bead with a convex (or concave depending on how you look at it) piece at the top that slides under and is glued to the mating Bullnose corner bead. Rather neat!
However, your advice re. the cost and (substantiated in my case) inexperience of the sub plus others comments about style clash leads me to conclude it's not for us. Thanks again.
well you pretty well nailed our house.first on the bull nose i had a couple walls that i wanted to soften the edge on, so we bullnosed them and put this square insert at the bottom. it's amazing the amount of people that picks up this detail and ask how it's done. time wise it takes a about 2-3 minutes to place the pc. then continue on with the bullnose. also trimming in a arts & crafts type trim. 3.5" oak square edge with just a little relief for windows and doors,with a 4.5" pc x 1" thick and dressed up a little for all the headers. baseboard 5.5" with edge rounded slightly. i think it all looks good even though in the 20's they didn't bullnose! if i could figure out how to post pic i'd post some. larryhand me the chainsaw, i need to trim the casing just a hair.
Thanks, you've reinstilled my faith in my gut feel even if it doesn't satisfy the purists <grin> and thanks for trim detail.
I think it will look great and craftsmanly (if not Craftsmanly, with a capital C) to use the rounded edges on the casings and the wall beads. Keep the edges soft. Good Feng Shui too!
The little plastic "bulladapter" (round over to square) looks great, takes but 2 minutes to install while installing the metal, and saves loads of time when running baseboard trim. I have done a fair amount of both taping rock and trimming homes, and I wouldn't do anything but.
I don't have a clue if it matches the time period you want, but if your doing bullnose, and baseboard, you'll wish you had used the $1.39 plastic adapter.
Bullnose takes no more time or effort than square corners when taping. I am talking only about outside corners, I have no experience with round inside corners or concave angles.
Just my opinion.
Edited 1/18/2005 3:02 am ET by ron