Am bidding on a re-siding job. Just one side of an old school. the present siding is cedar shingle and will be tearing it off and replacing it with pre stained clear white cedar. the wall is 120 ft long by 40 ft high with one inside corner and an outside corner. I was wondering if I should rent a lift and tear off the whole thing and than re-side or do it in sections. it seems like it would be faster to tear it all off at once an redo it , but I’m a little worried about keeping everything lined up like that. Seems like it would be easier to keep everything straight if I did it in sections, but probably a bit slower. Does anyone have any suggestions on how the best way to approach this would be.
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How big is your crew? Even with lots of windows, that's a lot of shingles. I'd be inclined to do it in sections. That way, if you get any weather part way through, or discover other issues that need to be addressed, the rest of your wall is not hanging out in the weather for any longer than necessary.
Definitely fasterto tear it all off first and then shingle it in.
I ccan't quite picture everythiung and how you work, but for me, it would be easier to handle keeping the layout lined up by doing the shingling all over at once too. the only drawback might be keeping the weather out
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WE have a crew of three To get a better picture of the job if your standing facing the building to the right is an inside corner an the building continues on, it won't be re sided. to the left is an outside corner and the building continues around the corner outside corner is woven and needs to match up with our job
We always strip everything. This gives you a chance to address whatever you will put on the wall, be it cedar backer, rain screen, tar paper. Make a story pole to match the corners you have to weave and perhaps account for any discrepancies you have to make up. I would make sure the wall is covered to prevent weather from getting in. It's easier for me to snap lines the whole length rather than work around what is existing. While you have the demo tools out, might as well finish the job, clean up the mess and start fresh. Sure would beat stepping on a torn off shingle with nails in it.Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
Rip off all old shingles. Assuming the old part does not use a rain slicker, tack up the tar paper using button cap staples/nails. At the top course (under the eave) screw down tarps, backed by a cleat. You can get the tarps in 20'x30', which might just do with the 30' hanging down. At the start of each day, tack the tarps up at the top out of the way. Let them down when finished for the day or when weather looks to be a problem. Tack them down with staples.
I would think this would keep out the bulk of the moisture for the few days you are working, and it would be faster than ripping shingles, reshingle, then rip down more shingles, reshingle that area, etc. etc.
An option to consider.
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Rip em all off and then do your layout. I've done it in sections and found it much harder to keep everythign lined up correctly.
You want to get all of the old out of the way, then snap nice tight lines from one end to the other to make sure your new courses line up with the old ones.
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Nice 120ft lines?
As someone else mentioned, be sure to make up your very accurate story poles in advance of tear off. You will need several to get up 40 ft so make sure you mark them very accurately, the order in which they progress and overlap is VERY important.
Also go up and make tick marks on some of the windows indicating course bottoms in case you get confused at some point.
Couldn't hurt to take some pics as well.
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Edited 7/23/2007 6:01 pm ET by EricPaulson
Edited 7/23/2007 6:02 pm ET by EricPaulson
thanks I like The idea of tick marks at the windows. The point I think everyone is missing is that I have the lines, because I have an inside and outside corner that I'm not tearing off. the problem is they are 120ft apart.
Funny story about maintaining amatching layout around windows...A guy ccalled me for advise. He was a caretaker and not a full time carpenter. He was shingling a house setion job that I had passed up. just tooo busy to get to it.The owner had come to inspet when he had it torn off and about one third shingled. Didn't like something about it. Both of them wanted my input about wht was wrong.Sure enough, it looked wrong. After going aaround a ouple windows and corners, thingss were not lining up with the tie-in to old on both ends.I sratcched my head for awhile, unable to figure why this job was looking like an Eshcer print....Then told them I would heck mmy photos in the computer. I had worked on the house doing some other things a few years before and had shot the exterior too.In the original job, there were two more courses of shingles on one side than on the other. Artfully done so it was not immediately obvious. I had to really study to find it. I told the owner the only way to make it perfect would be to re-shingle a whole lot more of the building and that his caretaker was actually doing a bang up good job for what he had to deal with. one of those things where there was just no good solution and I don't know what I would have done myself
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You would have enjoyed working on this one.
Lots of funny coursing going on here.
Not that you can notice anymore;)
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'course you know someone just has to ask what the owner and caretaker finally decided to do?
c'mon, be the end of a story
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I saw the daughter a week ago, and she said Momn finally got the house reshingled, which I took to mean that they went all the way. It needed it.
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Great place to use a water level or laser. Put a reference line in and take every thing off of it...buic