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   JeffBuck | Jun 12, 2002 04:49am | #1

   Sounds like the only option other than running the chair onto the drywall jamb. I will say that 2" sounds too big....but I can't see the house from here.

   How is the base handled? Can ya get an idea from that? For pretty standard chair....I'd say something smaller like 1/2" or 3/4" might look better....but then again....you've seen the place.....so your first thought might be best.

   We I've returned rail to the wall in the past....I like to replicate the "depth" of the return in the reveal created. Size and profile of the chail used comes into play a bit too......bigger moulding get's bigger reveal. Jeff

                                "That's like hypnotizing chickens........."

                                                     

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   larryscabnuts | Jun 12, 2002 08:47am | #2

   I have found out that 1/2 to 1 inch looks the best also...

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   PhillGiles | Jun 12, 2002 09:27am | #3

   I'd go with either a 60º return almost up to the window (1/2" reveal at most); or, a 120º curl (two 60º's, or maybe three 40º's, or even three 45º's for a blunter curl) return right into the window cavity.

   .

   Phill Giles

   The Unionville Woodwright

   Unionville, Ontario

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   JeffBuck | Jun 12, 2002 05:26pm | #4

   what the heck does all that mean? Jeff                             "That's like hypnotizing chickens........."

                                                     

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   PhillGiles | Jun 12, 2002 05:56pm | #5

   It means that you can either do a return very close to the edge of the window (but do the return with a 30º slope); or, you can make the return "grab" the edge of the window (sorry, I don't have a draw program available), but, IMHO, it's still important not to turn the corner on a 90º, but to curl it around the edge. Only the sloped return would be in the window cavity..

   Phill Giles

   The Unionville Woodwright

   Unionville, Ontario

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   JeffBuck | Jun 13, 2002 02:23am | #6

   I think I'm losing myself on semantics here.

   OK......I'm picturing a window with drywall jambs instead of wood extension jambs. This drywall makes for a normal 90deg outside corner...as it goes from wall to jamb.

   So.....as much as I think it would look kinda goofy......were does anything else but a trip to the chop saw set at 45 deg come in?

   What's sloping at 30 deg? And how do ya "not turn at 90" a 90 deg corner? What does the curl around the edge mean.......you mean just a portion of the profile wrap? Like assume there's a strong horizontal and vertical at the top of the chair......let that horizontal face die into the very edge of the wall and have the curve of the profile wrap...then return that part to the jamb?

   Did I just think this out for myself....or am I still confused? Both.....are strong possibilities! Now ya got me curious.....but what the hell is 30deg? Ahhh...I hate being lost! Jeff                 Genius has it's limits.....but stupidity knows no bounds

    

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   Piffin | Jun 13, 2002 02:41am | #7

   Jeff,

   normally the return piece would be 90 to the wall by two 45 cuts.

   I think he's saying that it would approach the wall, in his version, at maybe 120 which would be made by two 60 cuts or more cuts with several pieces at different angles. I've seen such done but only in really elaborate homes with plenty of detail work. This sounds like an economy home since it doesn't even have the basics in trim so he's already going overboard to add the chair-rail. An elaborate return would be as out of place as a silk nail bag on the job or putting a thousand dollars worth of tires on a two hundred dollar chevy, IMO.

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   JeffBuck | Jun 13, 2002 02:46am | #8

   OK....I'm wit ya! I knew I'd find my way outta the woods!

   .......I've even made that turn a few times!.......man I hate being lost. Jeff

                    Genius has it's limits.....but stupidity knows no bounds

    

   Edited 6/12/2002 7:47:43 PM ET by Jeff J. Buck

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   Qtrmeg | Jun 13, 2002 04:42am | #9

   Don't feel bad Jeff, I was confuseder than you were, but such is life.

   I would read up to the top, but I'm too tired, but I would return right up to the bead and move on. My thinking? No one cares what we do, no one knows what they want until we show them how it goes. And no matter what we do they will bitch about it later.

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   PhillGiles | Jun 13, 2002 06:15am | #10

   Thanks, yes, you can turn the corner into the window cavity in two or three segments rather than a single 90º and then immediately have the return. As for the return itself, I prefer a 60º return rather than a 90º (30º is the compliment of 60, a 60 mitre produces a 30 slope) for chair rails or base. For stools I use a 75º mitre..

   Phill Giles

   The Unionville Woodwright

   Unionville, Ontario

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   Piffin | Jun 13, 2002 06:25am | #11

   now I'm cornfused!

   LOL

   I was picturing a return to the wall just immediately before the window cavity. You are wrapping right up into it like the spiral on a newel post? Against a plain brown wrapper? GAG!Excellence is its own reward!