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   William_H._Brennen | Feb 23, 2000 03:02pm | #1

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   Tim,

   The clipped nails meet code in most of the country, but not in California earthquake zones, or in Dade County, FL to name the two of which I am aware. The full heads are accepted everywhere, and are often a tad cheaper. The clipped heads look odd, but unless you gun your show work with a framing gun, that is not an issue. I like the compact maneuverability of the clipped head guns a lot, because I do remodeling. However, I use a full head gun because I do work in CA and because stainless nails cost WAY more in clipped than in full. Both PC framers use the same air motor.

   Bill

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   tom_herman | Feb 23, 2000 09:40pm | #2

   *along the same line, I've heard conflicting info whether "true" common nails (fat 0.162" 16d's) are, will be , or may be, required in Calif quake zones (as opposed to the .131" shank 16d's).I'm trying to decide between a Senco SN65 & its common nail cousin SN65C for weekend remodeling-- have heard the 65C is more prone to jamming on skinny shank 8d's, should I ever need to use those in place of fat shank 8d's.Anyone know what direction the Calif codes are, or are heading?

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   Mike_Miles | Feb 25, 2000 05:31am | #3

   *If you're referring to the DBT1 ties, I had a chance to use them last summer on a deck I was building for a friend. I'm going to reserve final judgment on their performance until I see how the deck boards hold up after the winter rains stop here in the Northwest, but they seem to work pretty well. They take a little getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, you can go fairly quickly, particularly if you're working with a partner and can get into a good rhythm. It's probably not what I would use if time is of the essence, though. What they're ideal for is leaving the deck looking very clean. We used clear cedar on the project and not seeing any nails or screws in the face of the decking made the final product look even better than what we could have possibly hoped for.I wouldn't hesitate to use them again if I were doing another deck with a higher degree of finish and if the time and money aren't a big consideration.The only downside that I can think of is if you ever have to replace a board, things might get a bit interesting. The only thing that I might have done differently, is use a little adhesive on the joists for a bit of extra insurance. Necessary? Probably not, but in the long run I think a few tubes of adhesive might be worth the extra peace of mind. That's my $.02.

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   Tim_J | Feb 25, 2000 05:31am | #4

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   What are the advantages of either type of nail in a framing nailer? Besides the obvious of fitting more nails in the magazine. Do clipped head meet code okay? I read the threads about the Porter Cable FR350, is the FC350 as good for the price? Has anybody tried the clips that Simpson makes for attaching deck boards? Any feedback?