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Concrete patio prices?

Footsox | Posted in General Discussion on March 13, 2008 08:44am

We are going to be redoing our concrete patio and I am trying to get an idea of costs. The current patio is a concrete slab 15 by 25 feet. It is horrendous and we have decided to have it removed. So, I am looking for prices to jackhammer it up and get rid of the jackhammered concrete. The we will need concrete forms done with rebar, etc. and re-pour a new patio which will be larger – 20 by 30 feet. So I am trying to break it down and get prices as follows:

Jack-hammering up the old patio (15 by 25 feet) and removing it = ?
Building forms for the new concrete patio = ?
Pouring the new patio (20 by 30 feet)and finishing it = ?

We live in Florida, if that matters. The new patio will be in a level backyard at ground level. Thanks for any estimates or advice.

Footsox

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  1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Mar 13, 2008 09:21am | #1

    If I were a contractor in your area and you called me for a bid on that work, I wouldn't break it down for you like that. 

    Sounds to me like you've come here looking for some help in leveraging the local contractors.   Good luck with that.

    1. Footsox | Mar 13, 2008 02:43pm | #2

      No, I don't want to leverage the local contractors. I have a neighbor who just wants to tear down the deck (who is also a contractor) and I am getting bids on doing the rest of the work, which entails just the concrete work. I am deciding on how much it should be if I have the neighbor just tear down the deck and then trying to figure out just concrete work prices. The concrete guys don't seem interested in tearing down the deck, but are kind of throwing it into their bids I think, perhaps to get the work. (Since anyone can tear down the deck.) I am just trying to separate the two items, in case I decide to pay the 2 separate entities. (The neighbor and the concrete guys.) Thanks for any estimates.Footsox

  2. woody1777 | Mar 13, 2008 02:54pm | #3

     In eastern Nebraska we pay 5 bucks a square foot to tear out a 4 inch slab and re-pour the same. That includes all labor, disposal, forming and materials.

     The breakdown between tearout and form and pour is about 50-50.

    Bear in mind the geographical difference as well, construction costs and labor vary an incredible amount between locales, much like real estate. 

    Naive but refreshing !

    1. Footsox | Mar 13, 2008 02:59pm | #4

      Thanks a bunch. That at least gives me a starting point. I am in Florida, so I don't know if anyone else can tell me if that is in the ballpark in Florida. I appreciate the pricing info.Footsox

      1. calvin | Mar 13, 2008 03:38pm | #5

        Foot,

        anyone can tear down the deck.

        Is anyone insured?A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

        Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

        http://www.quittintime.com/

         

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      popawheelie | Mar 13, 2008 05:19pm | #6

      Woody. Like you said it doesn't help much to give a price for this given the location. I just moved from rural Kansas to city Colorado.

      The price for labor and disposal of materials in Kansas was VERY low. Probably like Nebraska.

      But as soon as you get into any built up area it really is a different ball game.

      The numbers just don't compare imo. 

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    popawheelie | Mar 13, 2008 05:34pm | #7

    Tearing out the old deck you can separate out but the the rest should be one price.

    I'd be looking around and asking for good reliable liscienced contractors with insurance that you could trust. In the end it is money well spent.

    When it comes to small concrete jobs like this the problem isn't going to be the price.

    The problem is sorting through all the people who say they can do it. Everybody and their brother will want to do this job and they will all say they can do it.

     

  4. junkhound | Mar 13, 2008 06:46pm | #8

    Welcome to BT Footsox.

    If you are physically able, the best exercist there is would be DIY.

    Here is my DIY pricing, including you buying tools.

    Jack-hammering up the old patio (15 by 25 feet) and removing it = ?

    $10 used 8# sledge, about 2 hours breaking up old patio (work from the edges in), or simply pour the new over the old, in which case we are talking $50 rental for a pressure wash to cleam the surface.  If breakout,  free ad in craigslist for spmebody to come get you concrete chunks.

    Building forms for the new concrete patio =

    Easiest part, assuming already level.  Scrounge some old half rotten 2x4s (or buy utility grade or use old pallets).   Buy a $20 level if you dont have one, use the sledge you bought above to drive stakes, should take < 2 hours.

    Pouring the new patio (20 by 30 feet)and finishing it = ?

    Ya need about 7 yards so you have 2 options - ready mix at $100+ pused pier yard or mix your own in a mixer ($300).  End cost being about the same assuming you have a PU or trailer to haul reclaim mix from the local yard.  I have poured and hand troweld 14 yards by myself as late as 55 YO, 7 yards easily doable.  If a smooth finish wanted $50 rentqal for a power trowel, make you float out of some scrap pieces of lumber for a one-shot deal. Say it will take you 8 hours as a novice.

     DIY price comes to under $1000 plus about 1 day labor. 

    1. Footsox | Mar 13, 2008 06:56pm | #9

      Thanks Junkhound. I appreciate the breakdown. I would LOVE to do this myself, but I work 7 days a week and barely see the light of day. The patio has needed to be re-done for about 8 years and I just don't have the DIY time. (Did I mention I am also trying to remodel the kitchen and that is mostly DIY) But, it is nice to see a breakdown. It certainly gives me a pricing starting point. Thanks!Footsox

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