I’m trying to figure away for one delivery of 6.5 yards. I want to do a 2″ slab under house, and put a curb in. Problem is, truck has to cross the ditch that would be in place for the curb pour. I’m thinking I’ll have to have two deliveries, slab first and than dig trench for curb and pour another day. Only one access to lot and that means crossing curb area. Anyone know how I can do this in one pour, short of renting a line pump?
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Day laborers and wheel barrows.
Some beer, wheel barrows and a group of friends?
Hmm local mini fest ?
Actually it is possible to dig your trench for the curb, form all but a 10' section of the curb and use some blocking and sheets of used ply to make a "bridge" to drive a truck across the trench. Pour the slab, back the truck out and clean the trench and drop a pre-made form in.
Might cost you some standby time on the truck but probably cheaper then a separate truck with short load charge.
you hinting you want a mini fest?
Might be two deliveries because you might want two mixes anyway. Under the house I would be pouring a mix with water reducer so you can rake it around without a lot of work. For the curb you want a much stiffer mix so you can get it in the forms and strike the top off, maybe run an edger on it and/or cut control joints?
I was thinking he could do the first batch watery and than a stiffer curb batch. Not sure at what point the water is added, if it goes right into the drum than whole mix gets loose and I'd have to get two deliveries as you say.
Sounds like you'd be way over your head, trying to do both jobs at once. This is a common mistake with homeowners and concrete. They forget that this stuff doesn't wait until you're done pushing it around before it decides to get hard.
BTW, I'd suggest that you lay a sheet of 6 mil. poly down prior to pouring the 2" under the house.
Sounds like you'd be way over your head, trying to do both jobs at once. This is a common mistake with homeowners and concrete. Do you mean he should apply the K.I.S.S principle? Keep it simple stupid
Do you mean he should apply the K.I.S.S principle?
If he doesn't do that this time he'll sure learn, the hard way (pun intended), why that acronym came into being.
We've got batch trucks in our area, basically a small batch plant on the truck, it mixes just before it hits the chute, you can run wet then stiffen up for the curb. Still need the knowledge ect. to screed float and finish on two seperate projects at once.
Have you checked out the cost for the two small deliveries? I'd bet the one truck and the pump come out pretty close to a wash... plus you'll only have to clean up once<G>
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The moonlight reflects from the window
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cost is about 100 per yard plus 200 delivery charge, so breaking it into two jobs is an additional 200. 1/2 day for line pump is 650.00, a minimum charge.
Some concrete plants rent out one yard trailers for a nominal fee. Home Depot used to have them too. If you have a vehicle and hitch which are capable of towing over a ton, you can go get a small batch for your curb project, anytime you want.
I need close to three yards to do the curb.
One problem is that you will want a pretty stiff mix for your curb, and probably wetter for the slab...course, you'll need the slab first, and there is no way I know to dry out concrete in the truck. I agree that you are better off with two pours, unless you have a helper who can finish one of them.But if you insist, have you checked on the availability of concrete conveyor trucks?
Still much smarter to make it two jobs. The two hundred bucks will seem laughably insignificant when you're done with both projects.
I've started to write you a couple of stories about HOs I've worked with on concrete pours. But there's no way to be courteous about their assumptions. Suffice it to say that they agreed with me...after the fact.
"Suffice it to say that they agreed with me...after the fact"
LMAO!!
I started to write you about my experience 2 weeks ago, 1 1/2 yards by myself, 2 1/2 hrs to get it off truck. I was in a crunch, need to add 4 inches of concrete to 8 inch foundation, finish deck and get CO or insurance was dropping me. Had plenty of help for Saturday but plant wasn't open Saturday unless they had minimum of 100 yards ordered. I had it all set up for one guy but still wouldn't have attemted it if not for the insurance issue. Guy pulls up, tried to get truck in the yard next to slides I had made out of plywood to get concrete through a 1-2 inch crack into the 4 inch space. Finally he had to pull to front of house and I wheelbarrowed it to slides, concrete started setting up in chute, mix wasn't going down slide, not lose enough, etc, etc.. After I finished the wall I had him dump the remaining load and I wheel barrowed it to two stair landings and a 4x8 foot pad for outside shower and wash room. Didn't get home till about 11 pm.
The driver was a southern gentleman, got out of truck and shoveled some to speed things along, never complained one bit. Only charged me one hour OT, tipped him well. After all that BS, I'd still do it again. Had no choice really.
That said I think it's got to be two pours. Both big enough jobs in their own right.
Thanks
Kevin
Funny story and very typical. I'm glad you have some idea of what you're up against.
The main thing with concrete is to have everything prepared a day ahead, twice as much help as you need and twice as much time. That's the way that the professional concrete finishers do it.
wise words
You might want to shop for another pumper, I recently had 33 yds pumped for $505... and that was for the big boom rig.I missed what town you're in... one set of my grandparents had a house in Stone Harbor, the other in Ocean City on the beach. Big storm in the early fifties took out the Ocean City house, and they rebuilt a block back, but my dad would drive us by the old concrete steps on the beach every summer.Sandy Hook in the early 70s was my last trip to the shore... say shore down here and you're an alien<G> Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,
Winterlude by the telephone wire,
Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,
Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.
The moonlight reflects from the window
Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.
Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,
Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.
even if I got it for 500, still cheaper and easier to do two seperate days, or trucks on same day spaced several hours apart.
I'm in Surf City LBI, about 30 miles south of Sandy Hook and 30 north of Stone Harbor.
I think you're right on two pours... but for an 80' boom pump we pay 130/hr and 2.50/yd... that 33yrds took right around 3 hrs, and most of that was waiting for slack concrete deliveries... yours wouldn't take an hour with one 7 yd truck.So this work exchange thing... what kinda boat have you got?<G> Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,
Winterlude by the telephone wire,
Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,
Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.
The moonlight reflects from the window
Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.
Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,
Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.
What kind of boat? Good question. I actually was given a boat by my father in law. He had a stroke a few years back and was uncomfortable going out alone afterwards. He gave the boat to his son but his son gave it back after docking one year, 3 grand, and never using it. He has 7 kids, not much free time.
So it was offered to me, and I accepted gladly. Hopefully I can use it this year. It will be parked at my house and you trailer to the free boat launch and away you go. It's size, etc I don't remeber but it does have a cabin, a john, and you can zip up the cover around the wheel when weather turns bad. Good bay or close to shore boat, nothing to far out in open ocean.
So, what skills do you bring to the table? Lets deal!
do you need a GC? Seems like you're all booked up with carpenters... but I'd love to try out a boat with a john!... you'd better learn to call it a head before you take it to the marina... call it a john someone might think you're lookin' for a hooker, and not at the end of a Penn Slammer<G> Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,
Winterlude by the telephone wire,
Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,
Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.
The moonlight reflects from the window
Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.
Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,
Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.
looking for a hookerafter the NY governor scandal, I started calling this Beach House my 'high priced prostitute".Could of used a GC along time back.