Got the garden shed formed up yesterday. I’m looking at about 110 SF 4″ thick. No permit required according to the building department. though it will be built to code.
The issue is teh closest I can get a truck to the slab is about 120′ way.
I can get a trailer of ready mix but will need to wheelbarrow it back to the shed or would I be better off with a mixer and 80 bags of concrete?
ML
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it will cost double to bag mix for concrete with half the strength. Get a truck
Why do people think bag mix is weaker that truck mix?
I agree it is more expensive and more work but most bag mix is at least 3000# and some is 3500#. If you don't screw up the mixing that is plenty. Most slabs get poured with 2500#
I set two fence posts on Saturday using Quikcrete- yellow bag pea gravel mix at $3.27/ bag and it stated it was 4000 Lb mix.ML
That is what the Sakrete Home Depot sells is too.
Truck and pumper.
See if someone around there rents a power wheelbarrow.
pea gravel mix and pump - the only way
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These guys are nuts- pumper?
It is less than 2 yards, get a truck, 2 laborers and 2 wheelbarrows, take about 1/2 an hour to wheel it.
Yeah, even easier, 4 laborers and 4 wheelbarrows, everybody makes 2 trips.
Naw just over 60.;-)
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
You don'wanna mix that by hand--redimix or bags. Get the truck and two wheelbarrow guys. It'll go quick.
Looks like I'll put my 2 brothers to work. Need to pick up another wheelbarrow. Waiting for a quote back from the short load guy, if not will go with United rentals and get their 1.25 CY trailer.
Thanks for the replies.
ML
I'd look for a concrete buggy rental, unless your brothers have strong legs and backs...and can be counted on to show up, on time and in good spirits. 120' is quite a distance to push 200-250lbs in a wheelbarrow, 10-12 times each guy.
Otherwise one guy runs the power buggy, two guys work the concrete. Done in a half hour. If no one shows up you can still do it all yourself, as long as you have a pair of rubber boots.
Edited 9/15/2008 6:49 pm by Hudson Valley Carpenter
1.25 yds = 34 cu ft, 20 trips = 1.7 cu ft per trip, or about 1/3 of a contractor's wheelbarrow each trip.
Edited 9/15/2008 6:52 pm by Heck
I thought I read two yards somewhere in there.
Went back and calculated. You've got the right figures but I'd still like to have the buggy, just because I've seen enough times when "volunteers" don't show for this kind of thing.
That 120' is going to get pretty long, for anyone who's not used to that kind of work. I'd rather keep my volunteer help happy.
Edited 9/15/2008 7:03 pm by Hudson Valley Carpenter
110 sf. 80 sf per cubic yard. 1.25 yards ....piece of cake. My Mexican hombres could tote that amount in their hats.
My Mexican hombres could tote that amount in their hats.
That's because they grew up doing that kind of work. But even they would be huffing and puffing after 120'.
This is just the kind of thing that causes lower back problems for the uninitiated weekend warrior. Speaking as a long time sufferer with sciatica, I'd do my brothers a favor and rent the buggy.
The buggy is a good suggestion for rookies.
Called the local short load guy. $100/ yd plus $150 show up. One brother is used to this kind of work and has worked with me before. the other brother is a salesman and I expect him to peter out after a couple trips. I will rent a power buggy as well.Should be entertaining regardless.ML
Should be entertaining regardless.
How about posting some photos? The more, the better. Tell your brothers that they'll be famous. ;-)
I've got that sciatia thing and I wouldn't lift even the women's wheelbarrow!
What Blue said, no hill for a climber.
One guy with a wheelbarrow could wheel that but two guys will be better.
Three guys with women's wheelbarrows could do it too.
You're looking at 1 1/3 yds. There are 8-10 wheelbarrows full of concrete in a yard. In all, you'd need to roll 12-15 wheelbarrows full of concrete. I would line up three guys and three wheelbarrows.
I think the guys above left out one key question....
Is it up hill or down hill?
:-) No joke...
An' beer?
Well it's flat except for going up the driveway from the street. No sidewalks all grass and dirt though. So it will be no picnic.Need to take some pictures.ML
Edited 9/15/2008 8:15 pm by MSLiechty
I had to hump nearly two yards by myself. New house, newly paved driveway. New deck, many tubes to pour.
My brother was working with me and was mad because I didn't want the concrete truck on the new asphalt. He wouldn't wheel a single load. I wanted to hit him ---alot.
This was up and down about 100 feet of medium sloped driveway and yard. I had one of those stupid two wheeled wheelbarrows, not a lot of fun trying to get a wet load down a banked hill with one of those.
Quite a workout! Took me over an hour. Truck driver said I was quickly approaching "overtime." At least my uphill route was with an empty barrow.
Just think of me sweating and cursing, and you'll smile the time away.
Dustin
Brothers LOL!
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Nice work Huck, Bakersfield is only about 2.5 hrs from here.ML
MSLiechty,
I'm sorry I'd go with a Bobcat. Around here the chance of getting two guys willing to show up for a one off job are next to nil..Oh you'll get lots of promises but when the truck shows up and they aren't around what will you do?
Why can't you get closer than 120 feet? Ruin the lawn? Big deal you can easily fix a lawn a little black dirt, some seed and a couple hours of work and the lawn will be repaired.. I've got underground sprinklers and lighting and I constantly drive on it. If the ground is nice and dry sometimes all I have to do is water it when I'm done and it repairs itself.. if it's really wet and tears up you'll have a little more work getting it level again but it's not rocket science.
actually without removing the fence. I can't get a truck into the back yard. The gate is only 36" wide.ML
take the fence down
I'd spend the hour moving the fence rather than the hour wheeling.
I runs along the side of the house between the neighbor about 60' back. The houses are about 5' from the property line.Don't think they would be too happy about a concrete truck driving through their backyard for my 1.25 yard pourML
I don't think I'd run a concrete truck close to a foundation but a property line doesn't mean anything.
Unless you own the neighboring property and don't want an 80,000 lb. truck driving across it.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.