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cougar in Michigan

maddog3 | Posted in Photo Gallery on March 2, 2007 03:25am

these are supposed to be from some guy in Martin…I don’t know exactly where that is, but it’s nearer to you …..the guy claims the cat was watching his son play on the floor……..

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    maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 03:29pm | #1

    ...one more.....

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  2. JLazaro317 | Mar 02, 2007 03:30pm | #2

    Are cougars in MI normal?

    John

    J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.

    Indianapolis, In.

     

    1. Stilletto | Mar 02, 2007 03:37pm | #5

      No  not that I know of.  Maybe in the Upper peninsula. When people don't know what you're about, They put you down and shut you out. 

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      maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 03:43pm | #6

      UH, I don't think so......at least not that far south......I just dunno.
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      1. MiCrazy | Mar 02, 2007 04:47pm | #13

        Oh ya, this far north.

        The DNR been denying it for years, but one was finally hit by a car.

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          maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 05:04pm | #17

          ...." The DNR been denying it for years..."that's what I have been told.what the hell is the reason for the the "coverup"are they afraid it will scare off the hunting $$$$where is .....this far North?.

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          1. MiCrazy | Mar 02, 2007 05:16pm | #19

            This far north is the U.P.

            The cougars like to kill cows.

            I'm not really sure but I think there is some sort of subsidization to the farmers it they kill cows.   Anyways, it has to do with money and cows.

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            maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 05:20pm | #20

            cows, of all things, I would never have guessed cows..

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            BossHog | Mar 02, 2007 10:34pm | #31

            "The cougars like to kill cows."

            I don't think they could kill a full grown cow unless it was sick or down.

            More likely they would go after calves.
            Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.

          4. MiCrazy | Mar 02, 2007 10:59pm | #32

            "I don't think they could kill a full grown cow unless it was sick or down.

            More likely they would go after calves"

             

            Yes, it is the calves they go after. I was just speaking in general for the city folk:)

             

             

  3. Stilletto | Mar 02, 2007 03:32pm | #3

    Martin is about an hour north of here,  pretty much right on 131.  Around the Allegan area. 

    Can you imagine waking up crawling to the coffee pot,  turning the lights on and seeing that?  Freakin nuts man.  Enough to give a brother a heart attack. 

    I know that my french door glass/deck boards would have a bunch of 7mm bullet holes in it.  

    They have been spotted here which is scary,  they supposedly have been eating alot of chickens and other small livestock. 

     

    When people don't know what you're about,
    They put you down and shut you out. 

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      maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 03:46pm | #7

      I'm tellin ya, if I saw that through the window, my AZZ would be all packed up and gone......are bullet holes covered by the warranty ??.

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      1. Stilletto | Mar 02, 2007 03:53pm | #9

        No warranty on bullet holes my friend. 

         When people don't know what you're about, They put you down and shut you out. 

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          maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 04:00pm | #10

          aaarrggghh...just peeked out the window , and the road is covered again.I'm staying home today.

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          1. Stilletto | Mar 02, 2007 04:16pm | #12

            I am staying home too.  30 mph winds and a white out.  Roads are a sheet of ice now. 

            Yesterday was a crazy one for weather,  snow, rain, lightning and thunder.  All at the same time.  Worked till noon and went home. 

             When people don't know what you're about, They put you down and shut you out. 

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            maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 05:01pm | #16

            it's been one goofy week....had all that and the pea soup white fog yesterday comin home....
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        2. CAGIV | Mar 02, 2007 11:31pm | #34

          hell they're not even a flaw.... they're "character"

          1. Stilletto | Mar 03, 2007 12:08am | #36

            Character costs extra. When people don't know what you're about, They put you down and shut you out. 

  4. blue_eyed_devil | Mar 02, 2007 03:34pm | #4

    About 7 years ago, my daughter saw one, a black one I think, when she first moved up to the lake in Northwest Lapeer county. We believed her, but theres always that doubt.

    Two years later my mom had one cross in front of her headlights as she was pulling up her driveway. She lived 1/4 mile away. It was winter and she clearly saw it less than thirty yards away.

    Up here in AuSable Township, my realtors live on the Dead AuSable River and they saw one in their yard. It was about 40 yards from them, in good light and stayed around long enough for them to put the field glasses on it and confirm what they thought they were seeing.

    Sightings of these animals are a lot more common up here in the big northwoods but the DNR has not acknowledged their existence until just recently.

    blue

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    keep looking for customers who want to hire  YOU.. all the rest are looking for commodities.. are you  a commodity ?... if you get sucked into "free estimates" and  "soliciting bids"... then you are a commodity... if your operation is set up to compete as a commodity, then have at it..... but be prepared to keep your margins low and your overhead  high...."

    From the best of TauntonU.

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      maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 03:47pm | #8

      see my last post.

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    txlandlord | Mar 02, 2007 04:12pm | #11

    We have them down here in rural South Texas, along with bobcats and rattle snakes.

    Two longlegged bobcats were fighting in the middle of a country road one day. As I approached in my truck, they continued fighting. I drove up to a point where they were 3 feet away from my driver door and window and they ignored me continuing to fight.  No camera.

    I have also showed up early on site to find a buck and several doe waltzing across the slab and site, and once encoutered a large buck laying down in the rear of one of our homes.

    Oh yea, and then there was the time Satchsquatch approached one of our sites and applied for a job as a carpenter's helper. No tools, no truck, and could not build a set of horses. I sent him packing. You've probably seen the home video of him, walking away and looking back over his shoulder. I took that video. He was pissed.

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      maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 05:00pm | #15

      it's rural here and plenty of wild stuff roamin around out back....just no cats...yetthe stuff you see when you got no camera huh?hahahahah,
      I may have seen Sasquatch twin sister the other day at the saloon...not sure, things were fuzzy, I 'll go back and wait around again,I worked with a dude we called Shrek....the guy literally snapped the heads off of Gr.8 3/4" bolts.

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        txlandlord | Mar 03, 2007 12:02am | #35

        I have a friend (Big Joe Hooper) who rents a home from me. He used to work for me, but ill health caused him to take a job as millwork specialist at Lowes.

        Ill health...understandable, as he is 7'2" with bad knees.

        He used to save us a lot on ladder usage., and could pick-up things like the rear (motor end) of a volkswagon.

  6. Shoeman | Mar 02, 2007 04:56pm | #14

    Cool shots

    You should add those and your Falcon ones to this thread

    http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=60580.1

    Once again, great shots.  I have woken up and found bears that close to the front door before - no need for coffee those mornings.



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      maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 05:08pm | #18

      OK ..I'll put them in there......some nice shots yourself...none of the falcon or cougar are mine though, is that OK?.

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      1. Shoeman | Mar 03, 2007 03:38am | #39

        Doesn't matter to me if you took them or not, I like them.

        Most of the ones I posted were mine, however, I recently posted some hummingbird shots that were not mine - just thought they were interesting.

        1. renosteinke | Mar 03, 2007 04:25am | #40

          An adult cougar is almost exactly the same size as a leopard, in the area of 120 pounds. They are quite capable of taking game four times as large as they are. Leopards habitually attack, and kill, people. Since one of a leopard's main prey are baboons, they seem 'genetically programed' to attack two-legged prey. Cougars, on the other hand, are more accustomed to four legged prey. Their main reaction at seeing a person is probably confusion, more than anything else.
          This IS subject to change. A couple years back, over the hill in California, a mother cougar was found to be teaching her cubs how to hunt humans. All three were sent to the "litter box in the sky." As for the source of the pictures ... I can only guess. But my guess is that some damn fool thought it was somehow more 'macho' to have a pet cougar. There is a thriving 'black market' in exotic pets. The usual results are tragic; an animal that can't be a pet, and can't cope in the wild. Last year, about this time, I had a tangential involvement (through a customer) in rescuing a bear cub and a bobcat - both failed attempts at 'pets.'

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    FatRoman | Mar 02, 2007 05:30pm | #21

    Check the 'critter shots' thread. Some guy from OK City / Upstate NY posted the same photos back in 2005

    Not that I'd want to see that kitty on my porch anytime soon.

    Tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet ~ Horace
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      maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 05:41pm | #22

      hmm..OK.

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        maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 05:45pm | #23

        SOB...here they are.........http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=60580.22...sorry about the now BS story outta Michigan.

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        1. renosteinke | Mar 02, 2007 06:00pm | #24

          Just a heads up... that's just a kitten! Not only will it get bigger real fast, but a cat that small is sure to have Mama nearby. Apart from neighborhood pets being at a very real risk, so are small children. While cougars do not, as a rule, prey upon adult humans ... this equation changes if the person is small, or in a position other than upright. For example, a hunched-over bicyclist is not seen as 'human,' and will be pounced upon. An adult cougar will kill a deer a day. Lacking deer, other critters are on the menu. On the 'plus' side, cougars, bears, and wolves are not very tolerant of each other. If you have one in your yard, you likely won't have to deal with the others. Cougars are also good at keeping the coyote population down.

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            maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 07:53pm | #30

            just a kitten ?.

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            Luka | Mar 03, 2007 12:13am | #37

            Yup. Just a kitten.Reno beat me to it. I was going to mention that I didn't think that thing was a year and a half old yet.
            H T R J

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            maddog3 | Mar 03, 2007 01:50am | #38

            great.......last week it was armadillos, fire ants, and dengue...now it's baby cougars.

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        2. JohnT8 | Mar 02, 2007 06:14pm | #25

          The source of them is unknown.

          http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/patiomountainlion.asp

          If I saw that outside the window, I'd think, "wow, and grab the camera."  But if I saw that outside the window and it was really watching kids inside the house, then I'd grab the 12ga and kitty wouldn't leave the deck alive.jt8

          "The flower that follows the sun does so even on cloudy days."--Robert Leighton

        3. MiCrazy | Mar 02, 2007 06:26pm | #26

          I found the article relating to the cougar/car incident.  If you read it, you can still detect a hint of denial.

          "Though the information indicates the presence of a cougar, it still does not confirm

          the presence of a breeding population in Michigan."

           

          http://easterncougarnet.org/MIconfirm2-05.htm

  8. Danno | Mar 02, 2007 06:38pm | #27

    That's just a stray house cat! (At least that's what the DNR kept telling people when they were seeing a black panther in lower Michigan.)

  9. DougU | Mar 02, 2007 06:43pm | #28

    Maddog

    There have been cougers spoted here in Iowa so I'd assume that you would come across a few way up there in MI.

    I think a couger was shot here in Iowa last year - if I remember right Hasbeen posted a picture of it on BT.

    Doug

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      maddog3 | Mar 02, 2007 07:15pm | #29

      the other night I went to bed bitter about a lot of things but I also thought...hey at least there ain't no cougars in my back yard,and now I'm surrounded by the damn things......:).

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    2. JasonQ | Mar 03, 2007 01:40pm | #41

      I can say for sure that there have been at least two cougars spotted in and around Omaha as well.  One was shot/wounded by a skittish sheriff's deputy, and now lives at the local zoo.

      The other was hit by a car on I-80 just west of town.  Been a couple credible reports of others, as well.  Also had sightings of a bobcat roaming the suburbs south of town last year. 

      Dunno why cougars *wouldn't* be around here, really...plenty of deer and coyotes to munch...

      Jason

  10. CAGIV | Mar 02, 2007 11:29pm | #33

    Click...... Boom....

    and that's the end of that

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