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   Waters | Apr 17, 2006 03:37am | #1

   And why does that stupid 'thumbs up' interest icon show up automatically on my posts? 

   Is that a preference I can adjust to knock that off!?

   Waters

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   Frankie | Apr 17, 2006 04:02am | #2

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   DanH | Apr 17, 2006 04:38am | #3

   When you reply, or start a tread, your "interest" in the thread is always set to "high". Click one of the "rate my interest" buttons below to give the finger to the thumb.
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   DanH | Apr 17, 2006 04:43am | #4

   Re your original question, I'm assuming that you're not doing any tile work. What about plumbing work? How old is the plumbing? Presumably the new tub and surround are fiberglass? Is the old tub CI, steel, or plastic/FG?

   Lots of variables. As a DIYer, my guess is that best case is about 3 days. Worst case is a lot longer, of course.

   If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison
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   Waters | Apr 17, 2006 05:30am | #6

   No Tile--they just want it fixed, right but cheap.  Plumbing in both places is less than 30yrs old, ABS and copper or Galv.

   The Tubs are both steel and the new surround the 3 piece plastic unit.

   I was thinking 3-4 days myself--as a 'neo' pro.  Although, I don't really want to specialize in crappy bathrooms!

   Thanks,

   waters

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   DonK | Apr 17, 2006 04:57am | #5

   On a straight rip out and retile over existing fixtures, we used to figure 4-5 days.

   Yours is a little different because you know going in the floor is shot and needs replacing. Figure a day (might only take a half, but if the subfloor is bad, or a beam is bad...) We figured two days for the tile, one to install and one to grout, you will move faster because no tile/grout.

   I would still figure 4 days to allow for contingencies like screwed up plumbing.

   Don K.

   EJG Homes      Renovations - New Construction - Rentals 

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   Waters | Apr 17, 2006 05:31am | #7

   Thank you.

   Pat

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   semar | Apr 17, 2006 09:16am | #8

   Strictly hourly basis, its fair to you and to the customer. 

   Why should you guess and bring money along? If it does not take as long as you guess, the HO pays too much.

   HO is always happy if the job is done right. In rip outs like that there could be all kind of surprises, then you are on the hook.

   I rather have a satisfied customer.

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   Waters | Apr 19, 2006 05:58am | #10

   Thanks all,

   I've gone hourly plus materials and did one of these in two days.  Why the *^&$%$# do/did people ever use particle board underlay in bathrooms?! I suppose it does not matter what's underneath if something leaks for 2 years.

   Beneath the toilet there was a 4' radius of saturated particle board.  Replaced with solid core ply underlay and fixed a couple joists and the cardecking subfloor.

   All spanky now in that one.

   The other I will also go time+materials.  I did not really consider, as semar notes, that it IS actually good for the consumer as well to bid by the hour for jobs like this.

   Pat

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   DanT | Apr 17, 2006 01:02pm | #9

   20 hours on one and 28 on the other that needs the extras.  We do a bunch of these and floor tear out can sometimes take 4 hours based on the fasteners used and whether the particle is glued or not.  DanT