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Crown Molding

Satch | Posted in Construction Techniques on September 10, 2002 11:51am

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever tried back cutting one or both legs an additional half degree to ensure a tight fit at the face of the joint? I realize it would open the joint slightly at the bottom but would  it really  be noticeable? After all, to make most joints fit properly you have to nip and tuck anyway.

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Can someone tell me how to use the keyboard to make the degree symbol? This has been driving me crazy for years. Thanks

 

Mike

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  1. SgianDubh | Sep 10, 2002 11:57pm | #1

    Try holding down Alt, and on the number pad with Number Lock on, key in 0176, and release Alt, which should give you this, °. If that's not it on your keyboard, open up a Word document, click on Insert, then click on Symbol, find the symbol for ° and note the shortcut keys to be used with ALT. Slainte.

    RJFurniture
    1. PhillGiles | Sep 11, 2002 08:07am | #6

      There's a little "depends" in all of this. In arial, alt0176 yields ° while alt0186 yields º - pretty subtle difference (actually, I'm wondering how differently each of us sees these character based on what we've set as the various settings on our machines). {edit: when I edit this append, the two special characters ° and º produce different results, when I view it from the forum, they're the same - go figure !}

      But anyway, you can run a utility called Character Map (mine's in "accessories" and its icon is a keyboard key). The executable is charmap.exe if you can't find the shortcut. This utility tells you all the available characters in the current character set; and, if you highlight a character's box, its 4-digit ascii code will be shown in the lower status bar. Most character sets have the common accents and special characters, like degree (º), half (½), Sterling (£), and even a superscript "2" (²) to show "squared".

      .

      Phill Giles

      The Unionville Woodwright

      Unionville, Ontario

      Edited 9/11/2002 1:11:15 AM ET by Phill Giles

      1. SgianDubh | Sep 11, 2002 08:29am | #8

        Phill, I override forum settings by specifying that my preferences will be viewed by me on my monitor. I'm not sure of all that you said there, but I use Book Antiqua all the time, for viewing messages in forums, and for all my normal business and personal correspondence. My machine allows me to override a whole bunch of crap that includes adjusting font and  forum colour preferences, etc, not that it really matters a darn. But if Mike wants to find out how to include a degree symbol, i.e.,  °, I repeat, a ° symbol in a message posted here, then he can find the shortcut to it without too much trouble using either your 'Charmap' method or mine. That should be good enough for him, I think. Sliante.RJFurniture

  2. Piffin | Sep 11, 2002 12:04am | #2

    Backcutting happens all the time. Sometimes on the chop box and sometimes with a block plane on my lap. Done right, it doesn't need to open a portion of the joint.

    Excellence is its own reward!
  3. andybuildz | Sep 11, 2002 12:42am | #3

    I use a wood bit in my rotozip to back cut after I do the miters...Only cause I dont have a Dremmel homeowner baby tool...LOL..

    BE well

              Namaste

                              andy

    It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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    JDRHI | Sep 11, 2002 02:58am | #4

    I`m in agreement here. Cut your miter first using miter box, then use any number of hand tools to back cut and give yourself a joint as tight as a frogs bunghole.

    ° <<<< it worked! COOOOOOOOOL!

    J. D. Reynolds

    Home Improvements

    "DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"

  5. geob21 | Sep 11, 2002 06:08am | #5

    Are we advocating using miters instead of coping????

    Is this the Fine woodworking forum or did I just cross into the twilight zone

    1. SgianDubh | Sep 11, 2002 08:17am | #7

      Now that's a funny question GEOB21. Yes, I believe Mike is asking about mitreing the outside corners of crown moulding in such things as rooms and so on. Personally, I prefer to mitre outside corners on furniture, and because of the nature of my trade, I also prefer to mitre the inside corner too, but then I don't use  'sprung' mouldings if I can help it because they add unnecessary complications,---- and then I'll also do curved mitres where the profiles are the same, but where one part is necessarily greater in width than its partner---- think of horizontal mouldings meeting a curved moulding, such as at an arch---  a door, or even a 'bonnet' in furniture, and then think of how you might achieve this if you're turning a corner, perhaps at 90°, or even some other angle of intersection. It does get tricky, but it does all certainly count as Fine Woodworking. You posted your comment in Breaktime, a builders forum with contributors that like to expose their butt cracks, a place to park a bicycle. Knots------ the Fine Woodwhacking forum is around the corner, ha, ha, chortle, tongue in cheek, and other expressions of levity. You did certainly cross into the twilight zone, and to prove it, I'm here too, a visitor from the Fine Woodworking forum. Slainte.RJFurniture

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      JDRHI | Sep 11, 2002 04:30pm | #9

      I`m under the impression he`s talking about an outside corner.J. D. Reynolds

      Home Improvements

      "DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"

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