defective siding in entire subdivision
i pulled into a subdivision last week and noticed every house was peeling paint on the sunny side of the house. this is an expensive side of town! the homeowner i was going to see surprisingly wanted her house painted. she said it was painted three years ago and wanted to replace the peeling siding and paint the rest. the siding is a pressed board from a major manufacturer and very common here. after giving her a bid i stopped to talk to a retired looky lou and asked him about his house . same problem he informed me it was a factory defect and about ten years ago they were part of a class action that won them enough money to do about 1/4 of thier houses in new siding. the siding is not taking in moisture under the peeling paint it looks brand new but they have been painted and painted and nobodys has stuck on the sunny side. any ideas?
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Back in the eighties I hooked up with a contractor/ salesman doing vinyl siding in a neighborhood that had a class action suit for failed Texcoat over plywood siding.
Worked in the same 10 blocks or so for about 2 1/2 years.
Got paid in cash at the local El Torito every Friday
the siding is not taking in moisture under the peeling paint it looks brand new but they have been painted and painted and nobodys has stuck on the sunny side. any ideas?
I might suggest going to bare wood and using a penetrating epoxy (Smith and Co., West) to create a good bond.Then primer and paint.
Here is a link- http://www.smithandcompany.org/ Read about the clear penetrating epoxy. Expensive nasty stuff, but effective.
Mike
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Lots of homes built between about 1970 and 1990 have hardboard siding problems. In fact, most of the homes on our block (dating from 1970 to 1978) have gotten new siding (there are only one or two holdouts).
Ca 1970 two things happened: Mfgrs started producing a sort of hardboard siding that was not tempered and had a very porous surface, and paint manufacturers (notably Olympic) started pushing flat latex housepaint. The combination of the two created the disaster, since flat latex lets the water straight through into the siding.
All of this gave hardboard siding in general a bum rap, though you can still find a few homes built in the 50s and 60s with older hardboard that's still in fairly decent shape, and even some built with the crummy siding ca 1970 but which got better paint from the start.
To further exacerbate problems, Masonite and a one or two other manufacturers rushed out a pre-painted siding ca 1985, hoping to recover from the moisture problem and compete with vinyl/steel on ease of installation. That stuff may be what you're seeing here -- it suffered from paint separation and similar issues.
As a result of all this Masonite and several others have essentially gone out of business, and you can no longer buy good quality hardboard siding, but must settle for fiber-cement or steel/vinyl.
I don't know what the adhesion problem was with the pre-painted Masonite. I would guess that they tried to use a paint system that was impervious to moisture, and it's blistering due to a combination of mismatched film stiffness and/or moisture migrating from the inside (similar to the oil paint blistering often seen on old houses).
a realtor told my adult son in Greenville sc that Masonite type siding was an excellent building material - just needed to protect it from water !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So is cardboard.Hardie plank time.
masonite right?
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