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Doorhandle Lockset – are there two kinds

bcskijor | Posted in General Discussion on November 24, 2006 12:18pm

Say you install a door handle with lock on an exterior door. When done the door does not unlock when you turn the inside handle. What’s the deal here. Is there a lever you can flip, fine print you can read somewhere, or a building code requirement??
Please help, one of many affected door users.

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    IMERC | Nov 24, 2006 12:20pm | #1

    what brand and style..

     

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    1. bcskijor | Nov 24, 2006 12:25pm | #2

      Not sure on the style, just your standard round/conical handle on both sides. mine is a Schlage. I talked with two other people at dinner yesterday that have the same problem.

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        IMERC | Nov 24, 2006 12:29pm | #3

        need to know which model..

        there is a ring on the internals on some of them that can be rotated 90 or 180* to take it out of closet lock mode.. 

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  2. calvin | Nov 24, 2006 01:43pm | #4

    Seems I remember something like this from a Schlage.  Turn one way, door opens but remains locked.  Turn the other and it unlocks.  Seemed odd, didn't read anything about a storeroom function.  Course I might have skimmed over that part.  Storeroom commercial sets don't unlock in either turn.

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  3. andy_engel | Nov 24, 2006 05:53pm | #5

    Typical of a Schlage. Don't forget your keys.

    Andy

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      JFink | Nov 24, 2006 10:24pm | #7

      What type do you prefer Andy? And while I'm thinking of it: you probably had to get special hardware for your exterior door, right? I mean, that thing is about 2.5 inches thick, right?Justin Fink - FHB Editorial

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      1. andy_engel | Nov 24, 2006 11:13pm | #8

        I prefer the Schlages that you have to consciously unlock.

        The lock on my front door is an antique mortise lock. I think it's a Baldwin, but I'm not sure.Andy

        "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein (or maybe Mark Twain)

        "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

        "Everything not forbidden is compulsory." T.H. White, The Book of Merlin

        1. brownbagg | Nov 25, 2006 12:36am | #9

          I learn long time ago while doing apartment maintance, have a non locking passage knob and a dead bolt. when leaving lock with deadbolt key. I know its a hassle but you will never be locked out.

          1. andy_engel | Nov 25, 2006 01:35am | #10

            That's how my college dorm room's lock worked, but my roomates and I still managed to lock ourselves out occasionally 'cause our RA, who had to come up to unlock the door, was really cute.Andy

            "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein (or maybe Mark Twain)

            "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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          2. bcskijor | Nov 25, 2006 10:33am | #11

            OK. All humor aside. And yes I have locked myself out on the porch in my socks when I was getting more firewood. At -30. Living the Alaskan dream. Luckily I could walk around to the other door. I usually don't lock my doors at all so that's how I solved my problem. But I helped a friend build a house and he had the same problem. His mother-in-law is looking at buying a house with the same deal. And they actually lock their doors. installed mine about 5 yrs ago aso no instructions here. What I'm getting is that there is something to spin inside, I just have to figure out what. I assume it's on the latch portion. It's -20 or so out right now so I might wait. =) Any clues on where that ystery spinning piece is would be appreciated.
            Thanks!
            BC

          3. BUIC | Nov 25, 2006 08:03pm | #12

              Try this, http://www.schlage.com/

              It's their home site. Go to your specific product and you'll find factory installation instructions and templates.

               Buic

  4. Dave45 | Nov 24, 2006 06:03pm | #6

    I ran into this a couple of months ago on an old Schladge lockset.  It could be set up for either a right hand or left hand door and a ring inside the set that had to be turned to make it work right.

    It drove me bananas until I got the installation instructions from the manufacturer. - lol



    Edited 11/24/2006 10:04 am by Dave45

  5. Geoffrey | Nov 25, 2006 10:31pm | #13

    I've not aware of any way to alter the type your speaking of, but that doesn't mean there isn't. As far as I know you must purchase the lockset w/ the function you want i.e. from the inside you push the button in, the door is locked, turn the handle on the inside and the door opens AND the button pops out leaving it unlocked (so you don't freeze your tuuckass off!) OR  you turn the button on the inside and the door remains locked, as you described. The latter is fairly common on the cheap locksets sold at cheapo depot or the like, so try a good lumber yard or locksmith and maybe they can tell you how to change the function, or if it's even possible to change it!

                                                                                                       Geoff

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    IMERC | Nov 25, 2006 11:07pm | #14

    here is the wrench you need to change the locking function of the lockset..

    at least it works on the majority of them..

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