Looking for manufacturers of double slider patio doors – the kind that open from the center. I need four big ones, so price is important. I’ve seen some ads for vinyl that looks like wood. Does it really or is that just advertising? Even a good brown-colored vinyl might work. Do “phantom screens” integrate with these or would that be a really expensive feature? It would be nice not to stare through screens unless they’re in use.
I’m in the early sourcing stages, but will need specs for architectural drawings. Any recommendations? We’ll probably source the new windows from the same manufacturer, but the sliders are the deal breaker.
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Loewen Windows has them.
These are very nice - afraid to price them! But, I will look into them further.
Thanks for the insight!
First off, welcome to BT!
My quick search through Pella, Marvin & Andersen online was under productive.
Did find this, though: http://www.deonnetti.com/liftslidedoors.html
Wish I could find more.
Thanks for the welcome. I'll be around often during this big remodel.
The site was very interesting. The other option presented are "Nana" doors. They are $9,000 EACH! I need 4 - not a good option.
Thanks for surfing on my behalf.
Thanks for surfing on my behalf
Bad archy habit, I'll look something up if I can't remember it off the to of my head. But, then again, I have Andersen, Marvin, & Pella all already bookmarked in my Favorites (along with vistawall, kawneer . . . )
Figured a classy Italian site like that would have some pricey items on it.
Do you have to have sliders? That would give you more options. I'm guessing not, either floor space, design, or the view is locking you in. Such is life while remodeling.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
We do have a view and a lovely pool. Plus, we're going for a Hawaiian style in the remodel - walls of glass, indoor/outdoor living.
Nana doors are the designers choice, but they LOVE to spend OUR money! Double sliders seemed like a better solution. And, French Doors have so many problems particularly in seismic areas like ours.
However, I'm soliciting suggestions as I always leanr of some new product I wasn't aware of when I ask others.
Tx - Capn!
There was a post here from a fella (last 6 mo.s) that salvaged or bought blem's from a supplier. Coupled up some single sliders with loose door panels or something like that. If someone should remember or you can find it in advanced search, might be worth looking at.
You can also look at this post on another forum from Australian builder, John Walker. Depending on your climate year round, you might pick up an idea.
http://quittintime.infopop.cc/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Gallery&Number=8622&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Good info and yes, although San Francisco has many micro-climates we are closest to Italy and Australia internationally. I will spend some time on that board.
BG
Have you thought of overhead doors with glass panels instead of the solid? We have a grocery store in Anchorage where they did that on the West side of the place and they open up the wall during the nice days of summer. The doors they use have real small rails and stiles with a lot of glass in them and a nice look. An additional benefit is all of the extra usable space you get over a slider or French doors.
The big downside I see here is that it might be kind of an industrial look in a house, but if you could hide the track and mechanism in a soffit, it might work. The only other consideration I would see other then cost is structural support of the house.
You can see the part of the store I am talking about at http://www.newsagaya.com//index.cfm?fuseaction=locations. Look at the city market store.
Good luck,
Steve
Very cool idea. People do that intentionally in lofts around here often. Again, the design "feel" of the house is Hawaiian, which doesn't lend itself to that concept. All the rooms that need sliders will have semi or fully vaulted ceilings so the rails, however small, wouldn't work.
Good idea though. Love your creative thinking, Bear. I will be sure to post photos as the project evolves.
BG
the design "feel" of the house is Hawaiian
Yeah, but I just had a mental image of glazed single-panel style garage doors tucked up under the overhang. Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Hmmm...that's a very interesting idea. I'd need to consult the designers to see if it's viable. We have "lanais" all around, but I'm not sure this would complicate other traffic patterns.
Bear
I read your post last night and thought, yea, I've done something like that before. Used to work for a guy that did a lot of restaurant work, we installed overhead door on a large deck overlooking Lake Austin. Open them up during the nice times and close em up the few days a year that are cold.
Then today we(shop workers) went out for regular Friday lunch break.
Overhead doors on three sides of the restaurant that we were at. Looked to see how they handled the track overhead. Couldn't see any, there was a suspended ceiling that hung just where the track starts to make its turn. The ceiling was some sort of tin with wood trim, Looked good, at least in a restaurant. I'm sure if your climate was "Hawaiian" than it would certainly be doable.
Norco (another Jeld-Wen company) makes big sliders. I've put in some 16'ers...nothing but problems from missing astragals to warped panels, just a caveat emptor...I'm also real interested in some good company. Don't worry, we can fix that later!
Good to know...I was just starting to look into their products as they are beautiful. I will keep you aprised of my research, BSB.
Anderson Frenchwood. Installed 10 yrs ago. Sorry, can't source the price from back then. Check Pella for their rollscreen.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Very pretty...are they real wood or wood-look?
Real ponderosa pine are what Andersen Frenchwood's were and are I guess. This customer elected to paint, some stain. Exterior are clad. Muttin bars are interior snap in, again real wood, not the plastic they offer. And, welcome to the forum.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
I have had good luck with Pella, Marvin & Loewen. Not to fond of Anderson since you have to build the frame on site.
MES
I installed a Marvin 16' slider a few years ago- 2 center slider panels and 2 stationary panels.
Marvin makes nice stuff. Its not real cheap, but they do make what you want.
It seems to be the one brand everyone mentions. I will take a good design vs. financial look at them.
Tx - BG
Marvin is favored beacuse of the quality, as well as the variety, of their windows and doors.
Along with standard sized units, they will make custom ones to just about any size you need, as well as a selection of exterior claddings and muntin bars.
I like to use them in historic districts because they will easily meet the requirements there.