Doing a big DW job now and FINALLY broke down and bought at HD the metal corner bead tool that is supposed to hammer teeth into the DW with a hammer blow. The Corner bead is 1 1/4 and that is what the tool said it was for. I used one of these in the past one time and loved it and since this job had LOTS of Corner beading it seemed worth the $42 investment.
However upon using it..the dang thing barely made any teeth marks in the CB. The punchers on the tool just barely grazed the edges of the CB. Instead of sizable holding teeth biting into the DW, I got teenie tiny CB fragments. Result was the CB fell away from the corner after all that hammering. Did I buy a cheap CB tool at HD (Wallboard brand) or is there a better one, even if it costs more?
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Don't have the answer to this, but a related comment: I picked up some bullnose at the Blue Box today, and nailing it up I noted that it is narrower than usual. Used to have perforations for the mud to penetrate, and another row of smaller holes near the edge for nailing. Now just one row of holes, thats it. I don't know if its possible your bead is narrower than the standard the tool was made for, but you might consider the possibility. Interesting to hear what the production rockers have to say on this.
Check the bead size.
I have had a bead crimper for 15 years, and the only time I have had your experience is with undersized bead.
BTW, use a rubber mallet to smack the crimping tool, the tool will last longer. Mine came with a mallet.
Dave
Mine came with a rubber mallet also and that is what I used. The tool says it is for metal corner bead 1 1/4" and that is what the size of the metal corner bead I used was...supposedly.
I have seen so many cb separate from the corner that I always spray it and the corner with 3m spray adhesive. cheap insurance against call backs
Even for metal beads? I was using metal beads.
yep metal to. it will not come loose ever
Check to make sure the size of the crimper & bead match. 1 1/8" & 1 1/4" bead are commonly used & there are different sized crimpers as you know.
As for brand, I've used a wallbord brand crimper for 15 years with good results.
Pyro-I've not seen the problem you encountered, probably undersized cb. Another method that I've seen is using a stapler - Arrow, whatever, and stapling the bead. It's pretty quick, just takes a little getting used to to get one leg of the staple through the holes instead of stuck in the metal.
sometimes you need to spray a little WD-40 on the moving parts.
I use my crimping tool to get the bead up fast then I put a few screws in it. In high traffic areas or vulnerable corners I lay paper tape in the mud. No cracks ever.
The crimper from HD is junk. I can't say I'm very fond of crimpers. You have to be careful that the bead is on the corner correctly, so that the bead itself stands proud for the mud. I actually check the beads to be plumb, not just popped on the corner. I also check my progress with a taping knife. There aren't that many outside corners in the typical work I do, so taking a few minutes to nail them on gives me peace of mind. I just don't trust mud and a few nicks in the drywall to keep the corners on for many years. Regardless of your views on crimpers, the one HD sells is worthless, except for mine, that I will sell for $25 plus shipping.
Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
Get rid of the crimper tool and use the paper faced corner bead.
Mud the back side and stick to corner - it allows you to shift the bead to fit the corner as needed.
If desired, you can purchase a bucket with a slot to feed the bead though that puts an even coat of mud on it. A two wheeled roller is available to help push the bead in place. Wipe a trowel over it to finish bedding the bead.
I wouldn't bother with the mud bucket (time consuming to clean up), but the roller is worthwhile.
Terry
I'm not opposed to using the paper tape with the metal cb strip, but I often wonder, are they really as strong and durable as metal bead? I tried using plastic a few times, hated the sticky adhesive I had to spray cuz it got all over my hands and was a mess, so I been sticking to metal cb. What do you feel about the paper/metal tape as for durability and strength?
I'm with you, I haven't used nail on in years. If it has to be perfect, slap up the tape on bead and adjust as needed with a pocket laser. Never seen tape on fail. In the cases where we run in to some type of nailed bead we always tape it anyways.
I've never used one of those. Right now we are enjoying the best method we have ever come across - 1/4 crown air staples.
I bought the same tool at Home D. an had ran into the same problem. As well as other problems. Between juggling the awkward tool, rubber mallet, holding the corner bead to keep it from slipping as I'm whacking the tool, and having my taping knife ready to make sure the bead is proud on both walls. I've always found myself going back to my old and reliable method. which is nailing in the bead with ring shank nails. The nail stays in place because of the shank's rings, and the flat head of the nail keeps the bead from deforming by holding it flat up against the wall.
-terry