a friend of mine pulled this off a job, but his helper dropped it and cracked the upper door.
any ideas how to fix this?
PS the upper door is upside down in the two pictures
Edited 8/31/2006 12:33 am ET by justinbearing
a friend of mine pulled this off a job, but his helper dropped it and cracked the upper door.
any ideas how to fix this?
PS the upper door is upside down in the two pictures
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That looks like cosmetic damage more than anything else; in which case some plastic wood, sanding, and a new paint job oughta fix it.
If it's structural (ie: the mortise bolt is flopping around), remove the hardware, use Abatron's WoodEpox putty to reform the area, sand/plane as needed, then re-mortise as if for new wood. Re-paint and re-install the hardware.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not brought
low by this? For thine evil pales before that which
foolish men call Justice....
looks like the integrity of the wood/bolt is gone, and no filler is going to substitute. Remember, this is a door, and looking good isn't enough.
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Damn man, your not just a lawyer are you!
I'm with ya on this one and since your the first one to suggest it somebody will give you a prize, not me but someone!
Doug
and no filler is going to substitute. Remember, this is a door, and looking good isn't enough.
WoodEpox is not ordinary filler (at what they charge for it, it better not be!). It is rated for structural repairs and full exposure to weather. It can be sawn, planed, sanded, drilled, tapped, nailed or screwed.
In that this is a painted door, with careful work no one will see the repair afterwards. Obviously, if it were stain-grade work, I would just build a new door section. And hire you to sue the helper.Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
that's the problem with you pretty boys. you only think about the cosmetics.
LOL.Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
Thanks for all the replies. It is structral damage and the "mortise bolt is flopping around."I'll look into Abatron's WoodEpox.Here's a quick little tutorial on it I just found with Google:http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/decks/oldporch/framing/rot_repair.htm
BTW, love that book series in you sig. Don't think the movies did the books justice, though I really liked them.
Wood Epoxy
Another vote for Abatron.
Forrest
I take it they don't have the pcs that broke off?
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Quittin' Time
Fire the helper
Yea, my friend is getting to that point. There seem to be other issues going on too.He's had a hard time finding reliable co workers that are "documented."
I would replace the broken areas with new wood of the same species. My preferred method would be to take a sharp handplane to it and plane the damaged surface smooth and glue a new piece on with a waterproof glue (probably epoxy). Let it dry, plane or sand it smooth, repaint. You could also use a router to remove the damaged area but the handplane method id so fat that you could be done before you had the router set up.
Tom
Douglasville, GA
Edited 8/31/2006 9:11 am ET by TomW
I don't think I'd fix that with filler, that mechanism needs more then that to keep it anchored.
I'd plane a flat area on that corner and glue a new piece of wood on. Shape it to conform, you may have to re-mortise for your mechanism but that's not a big deal.
I cant see in the picture very well but it looks like the piece attached to the bottom may need to be replaced or repaired, cant tell for sure.
Doug
I would first remove the T-astragal. Remove all hardware. Using a table saw I would rip the door back to sound wood. Get some 8/4 stock (1 3/4") of the same species of wood and rip to size. Either biscuit or dowell the parts using resorcinal glue and pipe clamps. Put on a new astragal and remortis the edgebolt.
You could probably get away with a 6 - 8" piece and, ironically, this would be called a "Dutchman"
this is an article from this old house and i'm not sure if this will work for you or nothttp://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/knowhow/repair/article/0,16417,680938-2,00.html^^^^^^
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I would replace the astrical, and route/mortise out the damaged section and replace it with another piece of wood(aka a dutchman). Glue it back into place with epoxy. Repaint.
Unfortunitly, the painting will take more time than the repair work. That is the part that would pi$$ me off... I hate painting
artist friend repaired cedar chest where new pup chewed off corners - used bondo like you use for car dents - really set up nice - sanded and painted = can't tell there was any damage.
I'm with Steve in post 14. Repetetive slamming of the door over time will detatch an epoxy fill. Real wood, screws and glue are the way to go.
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Gord
Maybe you can use the piece that broke out and glue it in with Gorilla Glue
Well, obviously, for a Dutch door you should use a dutchman.
bah dump bump.
Forrest