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   Guest_ | Jul 27, 2000 11:30pm | #1

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   Boy - that wasn't the pic I was expecting. [sigh] :-)

   (going back to the Tavern now)

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   Guest_ | Jul 27, 2000 11:34pm | #2

   *Ron,they sure LOOK interesting. The $1 price is only for openers though. For that price I'd like a truck load, but tune in next week to see what's happening I guess. Are you a buyer at this site? How's it work? Joe H

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   Guest_ | Jul 28, 2000 02:25am | #3

   *Looks like the minimum order is 4 truck loads. That's 19,968 2x4 studs or 15,360 2x6 studs. Plus shipping (and probably handling) to any other place in the east except F.O.B. MA, RI, NH and ME.I know of a guy who was charging a buck a mile for his flatbeds, and that was 2 years ago. So, with the fuel increase, I calculate the shipping charge for the minimum number of 2x4's to my area to be at least 50 cents for EACH stick.

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   Guest_ | Jul 28, 2000 02:41am | #4

   *Not quite what I expected either. I'm looking forward to the day that a fully engineered framing system becomes readily available and cost effective. Trus-Joist had a wall framing system that looked interesting but out here on the west coast it seems nobody has any interest in it. Even the lumber yards have little information to offer. So on we go framing with S-GRN DF or horrible KD DF in 100 degree weather. At the end I send two guys in with planers on overdrive and hoping for the best. It just seems that a better way has got to come.

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   Guest_ | Jul 28, 2000 03:39am | #5

   *These look like TJI's but they'll be end-loaded, not just laterally-loaded, i unlikefloor joists.Just used Timberstrand on a job - they worked out well - straight as an arrow.Jeff

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   Guest_ | Jul 28, 2000 07:24am | #6

   *Jeff, about those Timberstrand studs you used.What did you use for plate;Timberstrand or standard lumber.Did you have any trouble nailing any of it together,especially at corners.Heard from a crew that used it and said it was just about impossible to nail with a gun or by hand.jim

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   Guest_ | Jul 28, 2000 07:52am | #7

   *jim - It wasn't me doing the nailing, but the plates were Timberstrand too, all were gun-nailed, without any reported problems (I had heard the same thing about nailing).Jeff

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   Guest_ | Jul 28, 2000 10:52pm | #8

   *Joe - No, I'm not a buyer. We just saw an ad for these things and thought they looked interesting. (Like you) I was just hoping to find someone who had actually had some experience using them.

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   Guest_ | Jul 29, 2000 01:15am | #9

   *As a person about to have a coustom house built I never know what to do with some of these new products/ techniques.Some of the stuff makes sense but what is this stuff going to do in thirty years? My builder is a great guy, but I don't think he'd be real excited about this. Grandad was a fithth generation plasterer and very old fashioned- maybe too old fashioned. I guess there is a middle ground out there.Frank

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   Guest_ | Jul 29, 2000 05:06am | #10

   *How they gonna look 25 years from now is my first concern. A real stud doesn't come unglued for God know's how long.They look kinda funny too and I agree with the thinking that they seem to be moreso engineered for lateral loads.Pete

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   Guest_ | Jul 30, 2000 06:22am | #11

   *Ron FHB no. 40 covered Swedish prefab houses that used a wall system similar to one you showed. 25 years from now there are gonna be a whole lot of houses with TJI's in them that were put there in the 80's and 90's. I don't expect that they will be going anywhere. I'd like to try a house with these. Seems like a lot of potential. Skip