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   andybuildz | Sep 05, 2005 03:48pm | #1

   Oil primer with latex top coats. I prefer BM. The best they sell. Paint is cheap compared to the labor so never skimp on quality.
   Also be sure to power wash first with a 5:1 mix of water and bleach or buy ready made. BE sure the wood is "totally" dry duh before painting. Buy a moisture meter. Its important....and theyre cheap enough.

   I expect to see Shg here soon...
   Be ware
   andy

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     I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,

   I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.

   I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you

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   Piffin | Sep 05, 2005 05:58pm | #2

   U gotta explain that one. Here a guy has a house with painted brick that shows no signs of water intrusion, and U want him to use a pressure washer to force watrer into the wall????Agree on oil paint 

    

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   andybuildz | Sep 05, 2005 06:03pm | #3

   I had a BM rep here. He told me I should use a pressure washer on a solidly covered section of the house to get all dirt off but to be sure to keep the pressure to a minimum by standing further back.
   Made sense to me.The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!

   When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..

     I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,

   I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.

   I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you

   and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.

    

    

    

    

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   Piffin | Sep 05, 2005 07:30pm | #4

   I'll stick with a brush and TSP 

    

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   jako17 | Sep 06, 2005 03:54am | #7

   Why not oil top coat? I believe that BM have discontinued the dark base so brick red is only available in acrylic Pratt & lambert can do it in oil.Secondly would I have to prime the whole job or just spot prime if I used oil top coat? Thank you all for the help so far

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   Abm | Sep 06, 2005 04:08am | #8

   I would prime the whole house with the oil then use a 100% acrylic latex for the top coat. The latex has more "give" (expands and contracts) without cracking, has better color retention, and will not become "chalky" like oils do when they age. If your paint store has said that they can't make the color you want in Benjamin Moore (or any brand) go somewhere else! They can make any color you could imagine, I've even had my local paint store make me dark colors out of medium bases (because they were out of the darker base) it just takes more effort on their part and a little more tint. I'm not a big fan of P&L paint, although some guys like it..... It's just a matter of personal preference.

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   andybuildz | Sep 06, 2005 04:14am | #9

   I'm using red too. Cottage Red. I hate it. Thank god I only did the garage sides and rear so far basically. Way too shiny and its all they sell. The rep told me I should prime the whole house including the part thats already painted....maybe he just wants to sell paint. Who knows.Maybe someone that knows the chemistery of paint here will come along. I too would like to know if I'm wasting time and money priming the already painted areas.
   I scraped all thats loose and I'd prime only the bare spots but the rep said no go....not good enough...hmmmm.
   I may check Sherwin Williams' colors in red and see if they have something historic thats not so shiny. Looks like I installed vinyl shake siding withthis paint. Seems bullet proof but still...
   Of course you can do it all in oil but why would you want to?
   Be Clifford The Big Red Dog : )
   Andy cliffordThe secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!

   When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..

     I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,

   I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.

   I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you

   and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.

    

    

    

    

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   firedude | Sep 05, 2005 08:39pm | #5

   most problems with pressure washing come from technique - wash from the side, not the front, don't point the wand directly at the house, have it about 20-30 degrees off from parallel to the siding - use low pressure for applying the washing agent, and the high pressure for rising - be careful with the spray pattern - use a wide fan - the "sharp" pattern can actually carve some wood - oddball thing, try to do your washing right after a rain, the dirt on the house is already wet and should get washed off more easily - then hope for a few good days of sun and no rain before you start painting

   oil primer. latex top

   Won't even mention the L-paint issue

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   Abm | Sep 06, 2005 12:28am | #6

   I agree 100% on your powerwashing technique. I have done it this way for years and never had a problem, but I've seen quite a few homeowners and hacks screw up wood siding / decks because they weren't careful while washing. I generally use a solution of tsp and bleach (with water) that I have my guys spray on with a deck sprayer after I have initially rinsed it with the powerwasher, then they scrub it with a brush to work it in and I wash it again with the powerwasher. As long as you let it dry for a couple of days there shouldn't be any concerns with the oil based primer. I also use Benjamin Moore paints and also some Devoe from time to time... I agree the material is the least of the expense.