Anyone has experience using any of these products? Looking for options other than asphalt shingles for a home being built in upstate NY. Recommend any specific manufacturers? Like the look of the stuff, don’t know anything about it.
Thanks for any help.
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Have you considered the real thing? slate and found it too much for the budget?
Some of the "fakes" hold up decently,but none can hold up like stone.
Have you tried salvaged slate for price?
How is the hip?Hug it out.
Dustin,
Thanks for asking.
It will be two weeks tomorrow morning.I'm already walking without any crutch assistance-although not as strong and quickly as I will be.
If I had a desk job I could be working now.I'm going to wait the full month though cause slating requires more stamina and balance than I have yet.
Did you have total hip replacement? Two weeks with no crutches is pushing it. I had mine April 4th last year and was down to one crutch at two weeks, then a cane and was using no assistance by two months.
Careful on the ladder! I think you're wise to wait at least a month.
They did a MIS or minimally invasive technique on me.
No crutches after two weeks,but I'll wait two more before I start up slating.
Combination of Doctors and DW's orders-you can guess whose has more weight-sorry Doc.
That's great...here's the one I got:
http://www.wmt.com/ceramic/patients/hipanimation.asp
I'll ask about minimally invasive when the other one goes out in a few years.
Are you off the Cumadin yet?
Yes,Coumadin and compression stockings ended last nite.
Physical therapy at home 3 times a week-next one in a half hour.
Very little pain from the start-just a soreness where they parted the muscles and used retractors.
Walking up stairs normally now,but don't have my usual stamina or muscle tone back yet.
Zimmer is the brand of stainless hardware that was used.
That is remarkable. Two weeks! Don't you even hang on to the railing?
I'll look up the Zimmer site or you can Google them.
My first Dr. wanted to do it traditionally-with a 3 month recovery period.Then he suggested I look for someone to take over my business.Needless to say I haven't been back.
2nd Dr. a Sports guy is one of a few in Maine who does the MIS-but it's working out just as promised.A months recovery and then hit it hard.
He even wants me to copper line gutters on his parents home,so he expects me to resume normal roofing work.
Walter, I've been busy and forgot about your surgery. Glad to hear you're progressing well. We gonna see you at the Fest this summer?Birth, school, work, death.....................
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Grant,
Thanks for the kind thoughts.
Unsure about the Fest since I'm a Newbie of sorts.I'll need to think on it some more.
And here I thought I had the cat's meow surgeon...senior resident at Mayo Clinic..has done 3000 total replacements and 1200 secondaries...said the ceramic was the very latest thing.
Regardless though about the soft tissue healing, which I would think would be a minimal invasive advantage, what did he say about the bone growing onto the device? That was something that I was cautioned about...not to much weight on it for like 4 - 6 weeks,until the bone had started to actually attach itself to the prosthetic....or did they cement yours in?
BTW...we're on the way to high jacking this thread.
Edited 3/15/2006 1:04 pm ET by johnnyd
No he had me up the night of surgery putting as much weight as I could stand[walking with a walker}
Just spent overnight and discharged by noon of the next day.
Stainless driven in with hammer-no cement-stainless socket lined with some kind of plastic and piffin screwed into place
Sure, but isn't the slate only half the cost? The roof structure has to be built like a fortrice!$$$$
That's a common misperception.
The difference per sq. foot between standard thickness slate and an archy. shingle is only 5 or 6 lbs.
Any well built roof structure will adequately handle this load.
Slateman,I agree, I'm always surprised how someone in New England (for instance) will comment on how heavy slate is and then walk outside where the snow is 19" deep.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
Well slate plus snow is heavier than snow only the last time I checked.
Maybe for clay tile or concrete shingles but not slate . The concrete shingles I use weigh in at a little over three layers of 240s.
I've had several sets of plans come across my desk lately with it spec'd. From what I've seen I'd be leery of anything but Ecostar from Carlisle and Lamarite from Tamko. Both of these companies have been around for quite awhile. Some of the other products are made by relatively new companies and I'd be leery of being a quinea pig as expensive as this stuff is. None of these products have any sort of real track record and I've seen some failures in short periods of time.
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Thanks. I'll look into those brands. I am certainly leery of the guinea pig scenario.
We have used authentic slate for about seven years ,and only one problem to date. We live on an island off the coast of New England . And one house on the North shore has been having a problem with vibrating shingles in high winds. Its no wonder the old timers did not build houses on the water. Other wise I think they are very good
>>>>>>>>>We have used authentic slate for about seven years.Not to argue, but 7 years isn't a real long time, considering the expense. I've seen a lot of "new" products come and go. IIRC, Authentic has completely changed its make up because of problems since it's inception and that was a little over 7 years ago.Birth, school, work, death.....................
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I'm a little confused. Is authentic slate a brand name and not actually slate, but some slate-like material?
splat
>>>>>>>>>>Is authentic slate a brand name Yes it is - kind of confusing, huh?Birth, school, work, death.....................
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you got the pics still on this stuff????
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might these be what you lookin for?
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think so...
When Pif showed mw that stuff it looked a lot worse than in the pics..
I'd never have it.. too riskey...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
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Well, a year or two of aging in the meantime, between when those roofs posed for the camera, and when you saw them.I still wish I knew exactluy which brand those were.Hey CU, did I show those ones to you too? Can't remember
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Yup - I saw the library, I believe it was. Pretty scary.Birth, school, work, death.....................
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I had a box of goodies come across my desk made of recycled nylon fibre (carpet). Looked promising to me... tough as nails and not too heavy. It was kind of the density of a horse hoof... fingernail density.
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I plan to get this type of roofing. Its lightweight and walkable.
http://www.davinciroofscapes.com/
I installed a product from Welsh Mountain Slate. They are no longer in business(lucky me). As far as I know they did not go out of business due to the product. Rather they were a middle man and they got into a squabble with the manufacturer.
I too liked the look of the product. I think the product looks good installed.
You will need to provide prpoer ventilation for the shingles. Even with proper ventilation they will probably lift in hot weather. Mine do. I live in the Boston area. Most of the time they are relatively to very flat.
It is very easy for me to tell the difference between this roof and a real slate roof. Most people cannot tell the difference.
Seeyou is giving excellent advice.
I salvaged some of these shingles from a jobsite, pulled the stainless steel nails (required) and slid them under my shingles just to see what they look like. Very nice.
I'll bet these will outlast real slate many times over. You know what's in these things, no telling what mother nature puts in real slate.
We used Duraslate here from Royal, one of the largest PVC manufacturers on the planet. Comes with a standard roofing insurance contract (50 years) when installed by a qualified installer, which is about as worthless as toilet paper after year 1. The only warranty with any kind of real protection was from a concrete tile/slate company that offered a full 50-year warranty on parts and labor (!!!).
I am very happy with our DuraSlate install. The material cost is about the same as for real slate, it's the installation cost and the skill requirements that are significantly higher for real slate. Plus, you can walk on DuraSlate all you want w/o special protection, it's light, and it sheds snow easily. The only I thing I don't like about it is that it could potentially be flammable when exposed to open flame.
During our decision-making process we inspected a barn that had been shingled with the stuff some years ago. Considering that those users went for an all-black slate, the cupping/curling/etc. should have been most evident, and it was not. We have a dark gray color.
So far, the shingles have held their shape despite the use of a non-ventilated roof, plenty of sunshine, and good exposure. So far, I am very pleased with the product and hope that between the copper nails and the recycled PVC this roof is going to last a long time. I kept some leftover pieces in the basement for future repairs, just in case...
Edited 3/16/2006 6:39 am ET by Constantin