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   davidmeiland | May 05, 2004 08:53am | #1

   Somehow this keeps coming up... check a few other recent threads on cedar sidewall application. I use a Senco medium crown stapler and 1/2" x 1-1/2" stainless steel staples, with stainless siding nails at corners or on the top course. I know from fixing a few mistakes that they are terribly hard to get off. Other folks here use sidewall nail guns (see what Andybuildz bought recently) and HD galv or stainless nails. There are some specs at cedarbureau.org on the sidewall manual page. Get ready... they go up REALLY SLOW!

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   triplenet | May 05, 2004 01:57pm | #2

   I agree with David.  Have used staples and roofing nailer.  We prestained the shingles and stacked them on end in boxes so the were easy to handle on the job.  It is slow, but with the texture and variations in the stain, no one mistakes them for fakes.

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   goodwood | May 06, 2004 10:56pm | #3

   Thanks for the info. Good link too! Last year I did a small but "busy" part of the house, hand nailed, talk about a glacial pace. Very labour intensive.

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   ed2 | May 07, 2004 01:51am | #4

   spotnails makes a good siding stapler   use galv staples for white cedar, need stainless for red or for roof work

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   Piffin | May 07, 2004 01:58am | #5

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   goodwood | May 13, 2004 08:02pm | #6

   Yeah, I love swinging a hammer too! Still, I went and got me a PC stapler, what the hey.

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   ndege | May 13, 2004 09:12pm | #7

   I vote for the staples. What grade shingles did you buy?

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   goodwood | May 14, 2004 06:06am | #10

   The shingles are #1, prestained, resawn and rebutted. Whatever that means:) And I think it'll be a very long time before these need to be replaced.

   Btw, does anyone have a neato method for keeping the reveal consistent?

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   Sphere | May 14, 2004 02:27pm | #12

   yup, tack a temp. straight edge at the reveal size..set the shingles on it, then blam, blam, blam across the wall...slickerensnot..hang the 1x6 or whatever with a few shingles..and unail it for the next course

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   fingers | May 14, 2004 12:45am | #8

   My vote depends on how soon you plan to retire.  Either nails or staples will work but IMO the staples are way more of a pain to deal with when you or the next guy has to reshingle.

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   Longhair | May 14, 2004 02:32am | #9

   ya mean yall dont use caulk fer this?

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   andybuildz | May 14, 2004 02:22pm | #11

   Hand nailing daze are gone for me. I mean, I only have one life and at the rate 5" exposre goes up air nailers are the only way to travel. Well, at least for this boy.

   Staple guns are a whole lot less expensive than wall nailers so if thats a consideration than thats the scoop.

   I have both.

   the thing about the wall nail guns is, I use it for a lot of different applications so its worth the extra cost to me.

   Been using it for wood roofs, walls, trim, etc etc.

   Its really your call.both guns will work.

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   fdampier5 | May 14, 2004 07:52pm | #13

   Cedar should get stainless steel staples..

    Otherwise the tannins in Cedar will cause the nails to rust. 

     I made a simple jig that holds a row of shingles and spaces them up the correct amount without measuring every time..

    a couple of sheetrock screws lightly turned in and then both hands are free to place shingles.  once all the shingles are lined up I go back and bangeedy bang bang they are up. Unscrew the jig and set it under the next row. zip zip with a battery screw gun and then again with both hands put up shingles.  I'm a fat old guy and still I can do a wall in almsot less time than it takes to think about it..

     keep your jig simple! I use a chunk of scrap 1x1 and a couple of broken shingles as the drop down gauge. then to keep the shingles up in place while I set all of a row in place I use another 1x1 scrap glued to the shingles that go down for height. (I could use a piece of 1x1/2 if I had it handy and the jig would be evan lighter but as it is I only use a couple of fingers to hold it in place..) 

     about twice a wall I stop and measure to make certain that a mistake isn't creeping in..