I live in mid coast maine and I am building an addition on my house and i am at the stage of insulating the upstairs vaulted ceiling. The contractor who framed it and finished the outside built the roof with soffit and ridge vents.I totally understand the theroy behind venting but i dont like the idea of cold air washing through the insulation and lowering the R value not to mention the lost 11/2″ of insulation due to the rafter vents.What I want to do is to block off the vents install 11/2″ blueboard to the underside of the rafters, add straping then blow in dence pack cellulose and finally sheetrock.With the celulose and blueboard you will eliminate condensation because no air will pass through and I will achieve the R value I am looking for. I know what it supposedly does to the shingles but in maine where it is winter for 5+ months will it matter….. what do you think?
Edited 2/12/2004 12:20:29 PM ET by simonc
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Sounds good if you be suyre to seall all joints in the foam board tight with spray and tape so no moisture can pass upward. You probably will eliminate dewpoint but you don't want a space full of damp cellulose either. That will supporet mold and will lose insulation value.
Mike Smith might differ with me.
BTW, I am out on Islesboro. Howdy neighbor
bob pricce might have some advice for you too. He's the guy around here. RH Price Insulation Co
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piffen ... that was my only concern... is the polyiso on the wrong side of the dew point....
the denspak should be a good air retarder.. but any chimneys will put the warm moist house air in contact with the polyiso sheet... let's say it's a nice warm january night in Maine.... what ... - 15 deg F ?
ok.. what's teh temp on the warm side of the polyiso?
hmmmmm.... and it will make a pretty good condensing surface... it will be ok if the denspak has no voids... but any holes may become problem points...
i like the polyiso, but i'd rather have it on the warm side of the roof rafters with the denspak behind and the baffles still in place... or not...
ie: air baffles or solid pak..... either way.. but keep the vapor retarder ( the polyiso ) on the warm sideMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Mike,
He's not talking polyiso, but the blueboard, which I take to be extruded foam. I miss read the detail about placing it between the rafters though. I was seeing it across the bottom of the rafters with strapping holding it up and then blowing the cells above that. With it sealed to VB tight, that would be a good job if no penetrations leaking, right?
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piffin,
i forgot to mention that i will be sealing the blueboard with spray foam and putting a vapor barrier so that should stop any moisture problems.
simon.
Read it all again then. You are on the right track but see the suggested improvement
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Piffin,
What suggested improvements are you talking about?
i think he's saying the same thing i am... nail the blueboard to the bottom of the rafters .. no thermal break .. densest layer on the warm side..
or he may mean something else... he is a MainerMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Mike,
I plan to nail the blueboard to the underside then strap over it then blow in the cellulose into the rafter bay cavity through holes in the blueboard. Does this make sence?
Edited 2/12/2004 12:12:38 PM ET by simonc
ubetcha...Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
You got it right. The way it was first worded, it could be read that you were going to put the insaulation board between the rafters instead of across them.
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Thankyou guys for the advise...... Simon
Sort of a hijack but an alternative I have not seen mentioned. Has anyone use the recycled blue jean insulation? I helped on a store that had the batts, they were heavy and a bit dusty.