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Okay, I’m going to finally give this stuff a try. Small deck (13’x10′) so no end joints to worry over. 1/4″ gapping, ceramic coated screws. I assumed pre-drilling with a counter-sink would be the best way to go. But the installation instructions say you can tap the mushrooming caused by not pre-drilling flush with a hammer, hiding the fasteners altogether. Anyone try this? Does it really work, or is it the lazy mans approach? For what this stuff costs, I hate to mess it up.
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Yes it works.
*Ditto Nigel- Don't predrill and the screws almost disappear. -Ken
*I prefer to use #7 stainless steel trimhead screws. leaves a small lump to tap down.
*anyone seen the Fastenmaster Trapease screws? there's an ad for them on page 36 of this months issue of JLC (March 2002). they look like they may be worth looking into. if anyone does please report back and let us know.
*When I use screws for Trex there is a type of screw that Trex decks can have no mushrooming. It has a flat underside head eliminating an extra step of hammering it down. They work great .
*Damon, I think those are like the trapease. if you get a chance check out the ad and see.
*Damon,Are you using the Fastenmasters? Checked out their website, might have to drop into my local Ace hardware and have a look-see. They work well? I'd still like to use my Quikdrive and no pre-drilling if I don't need to. Guess I'll have to do some experimenting. Thanks guys.
*The cleanest look is to use Shadoe track or something similar.Having the top surface clear of all fasteners looks real impressive.Fair warning - it installs real slow, easily double the time to face screw.Terry
*We tried the mushroom banging method last fall with poor results. We even melted the material to seal the hole and flatten the mushroom. This worked well but discolored the material slightly. It will weather well. We used trim screws on the stairs that we built later and these are perfect.
*What do you mean by trim screws?
*they are usually square drive screws with a very small head. hence the term trim screw, kinda like finish nails have a smaller head so as not to disrupt too much material and so that you can set them. these smaller head screws sink without making too big a crater. any building supply place and yes, gasp, even home depot and lowes carry them. just ask someone to show you some.
*Trim screws are a must for fastening trim to metal studs. They do leave a bigger hole than a finish nail but sometimes are the only alternative. They are readily available in a sheetrock screw type finish but I have not seen stainless around here. Sounds like a good idea that I will ask our suppliers about.
*Thanks guys. I'll look into them.
*We just built a deck using timber tech (5/4 X 6") which I believe is very similar to trex. Ended up countersinking and predrilling. Tried hammering the mushrooming down but it left an very ugly flat smooth circle where the rest of the board is textured. I guess we should of tried trim screws. Even the sales guy at the yard said to whack it with a hammer.
*Shelling, rockler has the SS trim screws.
*Anybody ever use deckmaster or similar products where you mount a bracket onto the joist and srew the deck board on from the underside, leaving no fasteners at all on the top?